| cyberkidd007 |
i have 2 100watt pioneer speakers. I also have a BOGEN c35b amp. IT is a class b amp. The speakers impedence is 4 each. The amp will goto 4.5 ohms. and it has higher ohms. The amp has the hookup to ohms, ground/com, aux1 and 2, mic 1 and 2/ How should i hook my speakers up? I want to have a big boom stuff for rap music and stuff.
Thanx
'KiD |
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| sreten |
you should look for the only connections that will accept bare wire
and clamp it. These will be the speaker terminals, use those.
:) sreten. |
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| cyberkidd007 |
| no i meant like how should i connect it to the amp and stuff |
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| Richard C |
| For "big boom stuff" and "rap music and stuff" the best sound will be achieved by omitting the speaker cables altogether... but only try this with a class-b amp. |
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| LiquidRock |
I have the same problem :::
Ok, i just bought a kicker comp vr Dual voice coil sub (15 inch) I am gonna power it with a legacy 500watt X2 (1000 watt bridged) amp. this is my first REAL system.. and i have never owned a dual voice coil sub. I noticed there is a set of connectors for each coil.. what would be the best way to hook it up.. run 500 watts to each coil? in stereo mode (using both channels) my amp pushes 2 ohms.. each coil is 2 ohms.. so i am thinking that is how i should do it.. but i have never done this before and wanted to make sure :).. thanks for the help. |
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| cyberkidd007 |
| Richard what do you mean "ommit the speaker cables?" What ohm setting should i use? and what should i use as the input? |
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| sreten |
| quote: | Originally posted by cyberkidd007
no i meant like how should i connect it to the amp and stuff |
you've lost me here.......
| quote: | Originally posted by LiquidRock
I have the same problem :::
Ok, i just bought a kicker comp vr Dual voice coil sub (15 inch) I am gonna power it with a legacy 500watt X2 (1000 watt bridged) amp. this is my first REAL system.. and i have never owned a dual voice coil sub. I noticed there is a set of connectors for each coil.. what would be the best way to hook it up.. run 500 watts to each coil? in stereo mode (using both channels) my amp pushes 2 ohms.. each coil is 2 ohms.. so i am thinking that is how i should do it.. but i have never done this before and wanted to make sure :).. thanks for the help. |
Sounds right to me, make sure you get the phasing right.
| quote: | Originally posted by cyberkidd007
Richard what do you mean "ommit the speaker cables?" What ohm setting should i use? and what should i use as the input? |
Us Brits are such wags......
Don't understand what you are trying to set up.
The amplifier has an "ohm" setting ?
Is it a mono pubic address amplifier with 100V line out ?
:) sreten. |
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| cowanrg |
hell im confused too!
cyberkidd007, is english your primary language?
hehe, big boom, big bada boom! |
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| LiquidRock |
sreten what is Phasing? ( i am REALLY REALLY new to this).. o, i did some more research and found a guide at JL Audio. I now understand parallel and series.. and independant! one thing:
Ok i have the 500X2 amp now i cant go parallel because id only be puting 500 watts through both coils (they would share the 500) if i go series i get the full 1000 watts shared with both coils.. @ 8 ohms.. OR i could go independant and it would give 500 through each coil at 2 ohms.. im just curios as to what would be louder.. or is it something i need to test?
in other words which way should i hook it up..
1) series @8 ohms (1000 watts shared between coils)
2) independant @2ohms(500 watts to each coil)
Once again, thanks |
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| cyberkidd007 |
| ok i messed up instead of ohms i meant amps. OR the lil u thinge. And what amps or whatever should my speakers be hooked up too? And how should i connect my speakers? in a series or parallel? |
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| cyberkidd007 |
ok i got it all solved now. it is 1 in the mornin and my parents room is right under mine and my amp goes to 10 on 2 it is too loud and i dont wont to wake them upa on christmas eve since my dad is off. BUt anyways.i have one speaker hooked up right now and i wont both of them hooked up. The setting for it is at 4.5 ohms and my speaker is 4 ohms. Should i hook the other in series or parrallel? thanx
'KiD |
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| sreten |
| quote: | in other words which way should i hook it up..
1) series @8 ohms (1000 watts shared between coils)
2) independent @2ohms(500 watts to each coil) |
Where does 8 ohms come from ?
Your driver is 4 ohms with the coils in series.
2) sounds right
1) would be right for an 8 ohm driver
:) sreten.
(I'll reply to the other stuff after visiting my psychic ;) ) |
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| LiquidRock |
my speaker is a 4 0hm (2 ohms per coil) when you hook up a series it doubles the ohms.. thus giving 4 ohms each meaning the amp brideged would push 1000 watts (whihc each coil would share) @ 4 ohms per coil that makes 8 ohms total which is the most my amp can handle bridged (it handles 2-4 stereo and 4-8 bridged)
so like i asked before :
would it be better to do 1000watts shared between the two @ 8 ohms
or 500 watts each @ 2 ohms?
independantly each coils is pushed by each channel.. thus meaning you are only having the minimum resistance (2 ohms)
is less resistance gonna give a cleaner, louder bass?
or would 8ohms with 1000 watts SHARED (as in each coil shares the total 1000 watts.
sry if i just bunched everything together.. im just wondering how i should hook it up.
i would try myself but car is in shop right now being fixed (damn fly wheel went out and i dont have time (with work and all) to pull tranny etc myself.
once again thanks for the help
Liquid |
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| officeboy |
I'm reading that, and trying to figure what the difference is between 500w each, or 1000w shared...
6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another... :angel:
But I think there are larger issues here then that.
LiquidRock, could you maybe give us the model number of your amp, then we chould check the specs out. I doubt that an amp would put out 1000W at 2ohm, and 500x2 into 8ohms.
Remember basically every time you double the resistance (ohms) you cut the power in 1/2*
*Generally speaking, of course many amps do tricks and things with circuits and numbers so that power output vs speaker resistance is not linear. But in most good car amps these rules seem to hold true. |
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| Bill Fitzpatrick |
| I see this post and have to look at my calendar to make sure it isn't April 1st. |
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| LiquidRock |
i was saying that it would push 1000 @ 8 ohms..
and 500 @ 2ohms
ill get the model # tomorrow after xmas |
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| SkinnyBoy |
*scratches head*
I really just wanted to subscribe to this thread so I could come back for a laugh.. :)
cyberkidd007 if you want big boom just wire the speakers straight to the power outlet...
DO NOT DO THIS!!!, unless you are me... and stuff.. :)
(I have to put this warning or my post will be deleted and I may be sin binned...:rolleyes:) |
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| sreten |
| quote: | | my speaker is a 4 0hm (2 ohms per coil) when you hook up a series it doubles the ohms.. thus giving 4 ohms each meaning the amp brideged would push 1000 watts (whihc each coil would share) @ 4 ohms per coil that makes 8 ohms total which is the most my amp can handle bridged (it handles 2-4 stereo and 4-8 bridged) |
I can't get my head around the tortured logic of the above.
Bridging the amp means to wire the coils in series which is a 4 ohm load (for 2 2ohm coils).
That's it, end of story.
If your amplifier specs say that it can handle a 4 ohm load in
bridged mode, then connect it this way, you should get more
power, theorectically up to 2000w bridged into 4 ohms.
:) sreten. |
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| SkinnyBoy |
| I gotta get one of those back scratcher thingos to scratch my head.. its getting somewhat exhausting having to lift my arm all that way so often... |
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| ronc |
Hay McIntosh use to show off their big drivers by plugging them into a wall socket.Got a heck of a 60 Hz tone.
ron |
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| LiquidRock |
ok, the amp is a LA770 500x2 watt running stereo it can match 2-4 ohm speaker impedance and running bridged it matches 4-8 ohm impedance the reason i was saying//thought it would run @ 8 ohms is because if each coil is a 2 ohm coil.. hooking up series makes each coil a 4 ohm coil (actually combines)... **** im an idiot.. lol nvm nvm sreten, you are right it will be a 4 ohm impedance because when you hook up series it basically makes one coil out of 2.. so yes lol so briged the amp can match it and will be pushing 1000watts out of both coils(actually a "super" coil, giving that in a series they are made into one). well well i just learned ALOT heh thansk for all the info!
-Liquid |
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| LiquidRock |
as i was typing the above post i realized why the series doubles the resistance.. because like i said i dont know how many times above.. when you hook up series it combines the two coils adding the resistance together (smacks self again). lol thanks again
Liquid |
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| LiquidRock |
i might as well post here.. seeing i cant create my own thread yet :( anyways i have the following copied heh sicne i typed it up and it wouldnt let me post
Ok I dont know if any of you have read my firsts posts::
I have a 15" kicker comp vr Sub woofer, And a 500x2 watt LA770 Legacy amp.
I plan to have both of these in my car.
Ok now for the questions:
1) Im going for the max bass i can get out of this amp (i have nice tweeters and 4 way 6x9's) i have already decided to hook the sub to teh amp setup in series with the amp bridged. Now the problem is..I need to know should i run my amp on FULL, lpf, or hpf
Full i get 0- +18dB @60 hz
LPF runs from 35-400 hz
and HPF uns from 80-2.5k hz
frequency response on my subwoofer is 25-500
spl 1w/1m is 88.5dB
now what should i run my sub on - FULL, LPF, or HPF?
2) What kind of box (in your opinions) would give me the best bass? I was thinking a Slot Ported ( kind of a new design) or if any of you ahve pics of a box or links to dimensions etc.. pls post! thanks.
Liquid |
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| officeboy |
If the amp is your only crossover type device, then LPF, if it's not and your head unit has some type of control, or you have an EQ system, then I'd run it on full, and see if you can get that 35hz, down a bit lower to the 25hz that your speakers think they can do.
But really, the LPF should work fine..
And isn't there a car audio forum? |
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