| Circlotron |
We all know that it's a no-no to post other people's copyrighted images becaue they belong to them, not us. What about though, if you post a link to an image that causes the image to be displayed when the thread loads? e.g like this 
Is that considered to be the same thing? |
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| Jason |
http://www.rmit.edu.au/browse/ Our%...%20Internet%3F/
"Deep linking" and perhaps even more so "Deep linking images" is still a very grey area on the internet.
Personally, I would just add a credit link when deep linking images from other sites. Deep linking means that the other site loses (and usually pays for) bandwidth without having any benefits like being able to show its ads or clock up a page view. |
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| Steve Eddy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jason
Personally, I would just add a credit link when deep linking images from other sites. Deep linking means that the other site loses (and usually pays for) bandwidth without having any benefits like being able to show its ads or clock up a page view. |
Yes, a credit would be nice. But if the site is worried about bandwidth or monitoring pageviews, they can prevent deep linking and I've noticed more and more web sites doing just that.
For example, go here:
http://www.eveready.com/bunny/default.asp
Try right clicking on the big image of the bunny on the left.
Hmmm. For that matter, try right clicking ANYWHERE on the page and you'll get the same result.
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| Jason |
| I think the right click thing is IE only. You can always just [view][source]. |
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| Elso Kwak |
| Hi And I get the copyright notice! (IE 5.5):confused: |
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| Circlotron |
| About time you switched to a proper browser. ;) |
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| Elso Kwak |
| quote: | Originally posted by Circlotron
About time you switched to a proper browser. ;) |
Hi,
Such as?
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| dhaen |
Hi,
IE get's most things right. I've only ever visited 1 site (in Australia actually) that refused the browser.
On the other hand, it's most serious failing is not having tabs as Mozzila and Opera. I find IE6 almost unusable with XP where the task bar combines all open pages, and you have to use several clicks to switch pages - rediculous:clown:
There are, however a lot of sites that expect all browsers to be IE. Ignoramuses.:cannotbe:
Cheers, |
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| Steve Eddy |
Must be an IE thing. I was able to do that about a year ago, but when I tried it again recently I only got the copyright notice.
se |
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| Elso Kwak |
Hi,
I downloaded and installed Opera.
Funny I now could download the Bunny!
Opera seems to work somewhat faster especially on the Audio Asylum. Thanks!:) |
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| dhaen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Steve Eddy
Must be an IE thing. I was able to do that about a year ago, but when I tried it again recently I only got the copyright notice.
se |
You must have got an "upgrade":dead:
Cheers, |
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| peranders |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elso Kwak
Hi,
I downloaded and installed Opera.
Funny I now could download the Bunny!
Opera seems to work somewhat faster especially on the Audio Asylum. Thanks!:) |
Both Mozilla and Opera are MUCH faster than IE6 on a P4 2 GHz!
Why is IE so featureless???? Why is IE involved when you mess around at your harddisk?
Why have XP so featureless file handling compared to Macintosh? Doesn't PC users have a need for a smooth file administration? |
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| Fred Dieckmann |
I guess you kidding.......... right?
Why is Apple stuff so expensive?
Why is there so little engineering software ( or much of any interesting software?
Why would anybody use their stuff?
Why do Swedes ask so many questions?
Is Windows that hard to use? God help you if you ever work in a UNIX environment.
I started out with Fortran and punch cards.
I did like the Opera browser but it has been years since I played with it. It was something like 3 Meg of code which was pretty amazing considering how bloated most software is now.
I see it is about 12 Meg now. |
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| slowmotion |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elso Kwak
Hi,
I downloaded and installed Opera.
Funny I now could download the Bunny!
Opera seems to work somewhat faster especially on the Audio Asylum. Thanks!:) |
Cool :cool:
Be sure to check out Opera's keyboard shortcuts and mouse gestures !
Cheers :drink: |
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| faustian bargin |
FWIW i think most of those current opera megs are for handling java or javascript. which is 'optional' i think, at least it used to be.
opera is awesome. i have mine set up so about 30 of the sites i frequent open automatically every time i start up.
the only cumbersome thing is their new mail/news client. it's really still in beta, but they call it a release. i'm sticking with The Bat for my email.
sorry for jumping on the threadjack bandwagon...:goodbad:
/andrew |
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| dhaen |
| I thought The Bat was spyware... am I mistaken? |
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| faustian bargin |
:dodgy:
not that i know of. i have registered my software with them and they send me upgrade notices every so often via email, but there's no HD snooping as far as i can tell.
they seem like a pretty stand-up company. in fact their mail reader doesn't do any image or script downloading, for security purposes (and it is easily capable of integrating PGP if you desire). so while i still get lots of spam, i have zero problem with viruses.
/andrew - likes the indie approach to web and email, despite having to use Windows.
ps - perhaps we should start a new thread if this is to continue... |
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| planet10 |
do you mean this image
linked from the above site.
dave |
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| karma |
well if the moderater can do so can i lol:devilr:
deletes:goodbad: |
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| faustian bargin |
:)
yeah but now you're not linking it from the energizer website - you downloaded it, spruced it up, and posted it onto diy's web server. (also you didn't footnote the source, trademark, and/or copyright.)
which is probably less of a gray area than deep linking...but i'm just guessing.
/andrew |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elso Kwak
Such as? |
Anything but Exploder
| quote: | Originally posted by Fred Dieckmann
Why is Apple stuff so expensive? |
Macs are pretty comparable pricewise -- and some like the new eMac & the iBook are less expensive than a comparable PC -- if you can compare them. How do you put a price on quality?
| quote: | | Why is there so little engineering software ( or much of any interesting software? |
There is lots of interesting software, unfortuneatly engineering software is scarce. We are starting to see more & more getting ported now that Apple's OS is UNIX (easy to use by the way -- way better than the kludge they call windows)
| quote: | | Why would anybody use their stuff? |
Because it lets me get more work done with less frustration and problems (ie a WAY better user experience). If you are doing graphics or publishing work and your aren't using a Mac it's like surfing with an anchor tied to your ankle.
| quote: | | Is Windows that hard to use? God help you if you ever work in a UNIX environment. |
Windows is a real kludge -- i am using UNIX. With Apple's Finder on top it is -- IMHO --the easiestand most consistent OS available.
| quote: | | I started out with Fortran and punch cards. |
Fotruneatly i was lucky to have the author of Algol W as a dean and only learned Fortran for fun.
| quote: | | I did like the Opera browser but it has been years since I played with it. It was something like 3 Meg of code which was pretty amazing considering how bloated most software is now. |
iCab (which i use) is still about 3 MB. On the Mac i have a lot of choices. The fatties, Exploder & Communicator, Mozilla, Opera, OmniWeb, Fizzilla, special little browsers like Links, mogura, wDesk, WebDesktop and the 2 i use the most iCab & Safari (the Mac version of Opera is an also ran, compared to either of these)
dave |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by faustian bargin
yeah but now you're not linking it from the energizer website - you downloaded it, spruced it up, and posted it onto diy's web server. (also you didn't footnote the source, trademark, and/or copyright.)
which is probably less of a gray area than deep linking...but i'm just guessing.
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They have a copyright notice on the page, you have modified the image -- in a manner they probably wouldn't approve -- and have now put it onto the diyaudio server. I think i can probably get away with linkiing it because of the credit, but i don't think i want their mutated copywritten image on the diyaudio servers. I will probably remove Karma's image just to be safe. (i'll wait for a few comments before i do thou)
The credit with the deep-linked image from Everready gets them more legitamate links and pushes them up in the search engines and would probably pass scrutiny. If they asked -- and to a sharp webmaster, the credit will act as an alert -- we would have to delete my post.
dave |
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| dhaen |
| It's a sad day when "the law" means you can't have fun :( |
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| faustian bargin |
it's all fun and games until somebody loses a trademark...
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| dhaen |
| quote: | Originally posted by faustian bargin
it's all fun and games until somebody loses a trademark...
:clown: |
Who used bunnies first anyway? Wasn't it Duracell with their clapping one? |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by karma
i did allready;) |
Thanx
dave |
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| faustian bargin |
| quote: | Originally posted by dhaen
Who used bunnies first anyway? Wasn't it Duracell with their clapping one? |
wasn't it a clapping monkey? i can't remember the ads. whatever it was, energizer probably derived their bunny from it...i seem to remember the first bunny ads being pretty funny, although don't ask me to recall details. |
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| dhaen |
| Rabbit, monkey, they all taste the same with the batterys removed :clown: |
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| Sawzall |
The comic bunny was a parody of a Duracell ad.
The funny part? Its a 50/50 proposition if the average person can identify the correct owner of the bunny ads. Some choose Duracell, other Energizer. So as a branding tool, it has failed. |
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| dhaen |
Maybe it is stalemate in the USA, but my association is with Duracel. They did saturation advertising for a long time over here.
Cheers, |
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| Sawzall |
| The comic bunny is from Everready, not Duracell. |
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| Circlotron |
| quote: | Originally posted by faustian bargin
sorry for jumping on the threadjack bandwagon...:goodbad:
/andrew |
I started the thread and I threadjacked it first to browsers, so that's ok by me. :) |
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| Elso Kwak |
Hi All,
I just "upgraded" to Internet Explorer 6 including Outlook Express 6. Now I can't file or open the attachments in my OutlookExpress as this stupid program has determined that all my received attachments are unsecure and are made unaccessible! Is this Microsofts answer to viruses, blocking all attachements?
I also played a bit with Opera but this program has the nasty habit not to download completely long webpages. (F.a. a webpage about capacitors, forgot the name) It says connection interrupted or something like that, which is not true.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated as I am not a computerfreak.
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| rendisha |
Elso, it's about security settings. I think that you shoud go to Tools -> Options -> Security tab, and uncheck the box saying
Do not allow attachments....
But it will make your PC more vulnerable. You should download some program like Magic Mail Monitor to check your mails on the server, and delete spam and infected ones first. |
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| Elso Kwak |
| quote: | Originally posted by rendisha
Elso, it's about security settings. I think that you shoud go to Tools -> Options -> Security tab, and uncheck the box saying
Do not allow attachments....
But it will make your PC more vulnerable. You should download some program like Magic Mail Monitor to check your mails on the server, and delete spam and infected ones first. |
Thanks, rendisha!
I uncheked the box in extra, allowing email attachments to save on my computer. It works now!
Currently I am using Mail Washer but the emails suggesting to modify my private part keep coming.:clown:
I will check and try Maic Mail Monitor.Thanks again!:) :) |
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| rendisha |
Mail Washer is fine too.
I don't think that mails will stop coming if you do modify your private part :clown: |
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| mbroker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Steve Eddy
Yes, a credit would be nice. But if the site is worried about bandwidth or monitoring pageviews, they can prevent deep linking and I've noticed more and more web sites doing just that. |
Indeed. A "high-ranking member" of our forums recently posted an inline link to a picture on another server. The server detected the deep linking attempt and proceeded to send a highly offensive graphic instead. The moderator (me) was more than a little heated despite the fact that it was an innocent mistake.
In other words, watch what you link to!!
Mark |
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