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Distorted / scewed traces on oscilloscope, I think it's magnetized - Click HERE for Original Thread
bigwill
My CRO is acting up. When you move a trace to the top of the screen, the trace angles upward, and when it's at the bottom it's angled down. This happened since I temporarily placed a small laser printer on top of it and made a couple of prints, in hindsight probably not the best idea. I supposed something has gotten magnetised. Is it possible to fix this?
bigwill
Help :(
Iain McNeill
you've played with astigmatism, rotation, intensity etc to no avail?

CRT's are electrostatic if I remember correctly although still affected by magnetism. Wouldn't expect a degauss function.

What model? how old?

If it's a single channel why worry. It's probably a dual right?
Conrad Hoffman
It seems plausible that the shielding around the CRT was magnetized by some current pulse in the printer, but I stack all sorts of test equipment on my scope, and have never had the slightest problem. So have a lot of other people over the decades. Can you describe the scope- is the enclosure metal? If something got magnetized, it should be possible to demag it using an old TV degaussing coil, but I'm betting something else happened.
Charles Hansen
All 'scopes use CRT's with electrostatic deflection. There is usually a magnetic shield around the CRT to minimize interference from external B fields. It sounds like this got magnetized. Get a bulk tape eraser and try demagnetizing the shield around the CRT.

WARNING! Do not try this trick with a video display. A video display uses magnetic deflection coils. They usually have permanent magnets attached near the CRT to compensate for (cancel) the earth's magnetic field. If you try to de-gauss the shielding around a video display, you will probably demagnetize the permanent magnets and screw it up.
bigwill
It's an LG-9020G 20Mhz scope.

I havn't tried the rotation control yet but it was perfect before this happened.


I have some 6v mains toroids. If I make a coil of wire around an old file or screw driver, will this make an adequate degaussing wand? (Powered by the toroid)
bigwill
Hah! I had a reel of speaker cable, the complete reel measuring about 5ohms DCR, so I put 6vac across it, waved it by the scope a bit and slowly pulled it away and it worked! Woo, nice straight traces again!

I think the steel case must've been magnetized
bigwill
Is there any chance that this would've damaged the internal electrode structure of the crt?
poynton
quote:
Originally posted by bigwill
Is there any chance that this would've damaged the internal electrode structure of the crt?


I doubt it.

I use a Weller soldering gun to degause old CRT type TVs.


Andy
Charles Hansen
quote:
Originally posted by poynton
I use a Weller soldering gun to degause old CRT type TVs.

Be careful!

Please read post #5.
poynton
quote:
Originally posted by Charles Hansen


Be careful!

Please read post #5.


Most of the "unwanted" magnetism on TVs is not in the coil region but the shadow mask or the fixings round the screen.

I never had any problems in over 12 years

Andy
Charles Hansen
quote:
Originally posted by poynton
I never had any problems in over 12 years

Good for you. In the meantime:

http://www.laserfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq/tvdegacrt.htm

"WARNING: Don't attempt to degauss inside or in the back of the set (near the CRT neck. This can demagnetize the relatively weak purity and convergence magnets which may turn a simple repair into a feature length extravaganza!"
poynton
quote:
Originally posted by Charles Hansen


purity and convergence magnets ................


They are an absolute horror when not aligned.

I usually scrapped the monitor !!

Andy

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