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milen007
i do a search about them but return to much to screen over.

whats is the motor run capacitor? which do they usually being used? whats is the different between motor run cap and normal caps we uses in audio application?

for audio component tweak. which part do this motor run caps fit best? power supply? thanks in advance
gareth
Motor run capacitors are, as the name says, for the 'starting' of larger AC motors. They are primarily for single-phase motors and 'off-set' the phase components to get the motor running.
As such they have to be a pretty tough device, to handle the motor inrush current, so they are pretty hard wearing too.
Try a search in Farnell's or RS....

Gareth
star882
quote:
Originally posted by gareth
Motor run capacitors are, as the name says, for the 'starting' of larger AC motors. They are primarily for single-phase motors and 'off-set' the phase components to get the motor running.
As such they have to be a pretty tough device, to handle the motor inrush current, so they are pretty hard wearing too.
Try a search in Farnell's or RS....

Gareth
No, a motor run capacitor is used just to provide a phase shift for a single phase motor. A motor start capacitor is used to start a single phase motor, and there is a relay or electronic circuit to disconnect the capacitor after starting.
Probably the best source for those are HVAC supply stores.
oshifis
quote:
Originally posted by star882
a motor run capacitor is used just to provide a phase shift for a single phase motor
Or rather to provide 90° phase shift in order to run a 2-phase motor from a single phase.
milen007
thanks for all the info. then whats the different between motor run caps with normal audio cap? why some people prefer motor run cap for their power supply? thx
analog_sa
quote:
Originally posted by milen007
why some people prefer motor run cap for their power supply?


For polyprop they are cheap.
richie00boy
Usually a motor run cap is the only way to get a high value (>10uF) poly cap.
theAnonymous1
I thought motor run capacitors are paper and oil?
richie00boy
They can be all sorts of construction. The 40uF ones I have are polypropylene.

In my post above I should have said non-electrolytic cap really.
AndrewT
Motor run and motor start capacitors come in both electrolytic and metalised film.
They are usually rated for 250Vac or 400Vac.
The metalised film are usually much cheaper and probably just as good as many of the mid priced "audio" film caps.
The film type 400Vac motor run caps would make excellent <=550Vdc PSU caps for tube/valve amps.

The motor run and motor start spec is determined by the continuous vs short term Line voltage capability.
theAnonymous1
OK, I looked up the specs on some 7.5uF 370VAC caps I have. I always assumed they were paper and oil, now I see they are polypropylene and oil.

Is there any difference between these caps and standard polypropylene films when used with low level signals?

woody
You might ask about them on the Bottlehead forum. I think the
general fealing is that they are good for audio and for some
reason realy good in tube amps.
analog_sa
quote:
Originally posted by theAnonymous1
Is there any difference between these caps and standard polypropylene films when used with low level signals?


Thanks to the oil they are very well damped and quite resistant to overvoltage and silly discharge currents.

In general motor run caps are quite good for audio but certainly require a smaller value bypass. I have some doubts about the quality of termination.

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