| djQUAN |
haven't seen this posted before so I thought I'd share.....
part one
part two
I want to work there. :smash: |
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| MatthewS |
It's always nice to see women doing the hand assembly, stuffed into cramped work quarters WITHOUT any fume extractors in sight.
- matt |
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| luka |
| Sweet! Got anybody some more? |
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| gtforme00 |
I don't see the appeal. I would much rather have machine placed, reflow soldered parts with AOI checked boards that have gone through proper end of line tests. Granted, there will be certain parts that have to be hand placed, but the less human interaction the better from my experience.
Still interesting to watch though.
Edit: After watching the videos through their entire length, I do see the appeal. Just like I value my hand crafted antique furniture more than my modern machine cut furniture even though they serve the same function. The modern furniture may well function better and more reliably, but lack the charm.
I guess my priorities aren't such that I would pay for the "prestige" of hand built circuit boards. I make my own and enjoy it, but do not consider them superior to even a cheap Chinese board house.
I'm glad that some do value the artisan's work, more power to the artisans and those who support them with their personal funds.
Regards,
David |
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| jol50 |
| Very interesting, but I don't think I even want to know what they cost. Really nice amps though. |
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| 69CamaroSS396 |
| Not sure of the specific model shown in the video, but that is the Series 3, which ranges from 599 GBP to 1099 GBP(presently about $1200-$2200 US dollars). |
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| MatthewS |
And somehow they can't afford a $69 fume extractor for the ladies that do all the soldering? I think thats horse****, and a great reason not to even consider buying one of their products. I'm sorry, but I watched that segment of the video and though 'if that was my mother, I'd kill someone'
Hate to sound 'preachy' but Solder processing is known to cause cancers of several varities, birth defects, and is on file with the CDC. It's also known to have caused occupational asthma.
That video just completely turned me off, thats all I can really say about it..
- Matt |
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| Cal Weldon |
| Matt, I edited your post. No swearing please. |
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| MatthewS |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cal Weldon
Matt, I edited your post. No swearing please. |
My bad Cal, wasn't thinking about that in all my angst. And I concur, a big pair of speakers always makes ones day!
- Matt |
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| 69CamaroSS396 |
I watched the first video for a second and third time and it appears to me that it's an assumption at best to insinuate that there are no safety measures in place concerning fumes.
If you closely watch the trail of smoke from the soldering iron at about 1:05 to 1:12 of the video, it appears to be pulled away quickly by some type of circulation/ventilation system in the building. It doesn't linger in front of the worker.
And how can one tell how "cramped" the work area is, in terms of how it would adversely affect that ventilation?
I don't believe there is enough info to draw some definite conclusion.
I could be totally full of horse dukey, but it's not like it's a third world country sweatshop using 12 year old kids to make sneakers. Great Britain is pretty advanced. |
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| MatthewS |
| quote: | Originally posted by 69CamaroSS396
I watched the first video for a second and third time and it appears to me that it's an assumption at best to insinuate that there are no safety measures in place concerning fumes.
If you closely watch the trail of smoke from the soldering iron at about 1:05 to 1:12 of the video, it appears to be pulled away quickly by some type of circulation/ventilation system in the building. It doesn't linger in front of the worker.
And how can one tell how "cramped" the work area is, in terms of how it would adversely affect that ventilation?
I don't believe there is enough info to draw some definite conclusion.
I could be totally full of horse dukey, but it's not like it's a third world country sweatshop using 12 year old kids to make sneakers. Great Britain is pretty advanced. |
I looked very closely for that, the part you overlooked was that the PCB's were in a jig _angeled_ towards the user. So while the smoke 'sppears' to be pulled away, what you seeing is the smoke simply travel upwards. Assuming the user is over the work while doing it, they are inhaling the fumes.
And the work areas for the parts stuffing looked cramped to me, maybe I'm spoiled because I have more then 2 square feet of work area. And I know Great Britain is not living in the stone age, neither are Americans. That doesn't mean employers treat employees properly in either country.
If their gonna make the women sit there and solder all day long, they should have a little open space and a fume extractor on the bench. Thats my opinion and opinions will vary of course.
- Matt |
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| 69CamaroSS396 |
| All good points. |
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| Jonny Hotnuts |
Matt-
The working conditions of most of the stuff made in China are waaaayyyy worse. Just because you dont see it in a video does not mean it is not there...and industrial China is very advanced.
THat is still no excuse, a fume extractor is not rocket science or expensive.
You should contact the company and explain what you think.
sales@genesis-ice.com
This is a sales contact. If you ask them for an email to a department head or person sutable to address this you will likely get it, if you explain why you want it and dont seem crazy.
I would like to see what come of it.....me personally....I dont like old ladies so I am fine with it....JK
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