| PixelPlay |
| Apologies, duly noted. |
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| robmil |
| The US$-CAD$ exchange rate is 1.011 or 0.98 depending how you look at it. shipping isn't going to cost the equivalent of 37% per unit which is the increase cost of the motor from the original quote. |
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| dnewma04 |
| The price of the motor appears to have gone up from ~84 to 95.00+ shipping/taxes/fees and he said he would account for any differences in actual cost at the time of shipping. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't see this course of action as being particularly out of line. It's a bit of a stretch to say the price went up 37% considering shipping/taxes/paypal fees weren't taken in consideration with the initial motor price quote. |
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| nicoch46 |
This motor are planar 3 compatible ?
tnx |
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| Spica |
| Considering the price of a single motor, I think this is pretty reasonable for a high quality component. Wait 'till you price out a good bearing/platter, if you're building from scratch! :cannotbe: |
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| Algar_emi |
Peoples, don't forget that the original Motor price break was:
QTY Price
1 $140
5 $110
20 $95
50 $80
See the included quote extract.
I have only 32 motors on order from you guys, so the motor price is 95$. At the beginning I was guessing that we may reach 50$ as the first GB but this not the case. It seems there is no more interest for now and I cannot wiat for ever to reach 50 motors.
This is the major reason why I'm asking for this price. I cannot order directly from Maxon USA. I was told from them during the last GB to order from the Canadian distributor.
As for the price padding here some explanations. Don't forget I was there before and I know by experience what will be the end costs:
95$+ GST 5% = $99.75, but I'll pay the Canadian distributor in $CAN. I'll have to transfer the money from the PayPal account in U$ to my account in $CAN and PayPal exchange rate is always worst than the official rate (mean lower). So, I loose money there.
The big (and heavy) motors box will be ship directly from Maxon USA, to my door and there will be custom charges. There was the last time. So, I'll have also to pay for that.
Maxon is also using a courrier, like UPS or Purolator, and I'll have to pay a rather step shipping charge.
Then depending on the buyer location, there can be currency exchange rate added to the 3% Paypal fee. For example, on the current payments that I'm receiving I was charged for
175$, 5.38$ (3.07428%), other members 7.13$ (4.07%).
Sorry, but I can never know from member to member what is their PayPal account basic currency (even for US located members), even less to track these difference. Also note that the actual PayPal rate is not really 3.0% but 3.07428%. It may not seem that much but these differences but can account for hundred of dollars on 4-5K$ group buy account.
All these can easily account for the 110$ for the motor. I know, I had
exactly the same experience during the last GB.
The big difference in price is really 95$ instead of 80$ that you thought to be the price.
During the last GB, I asked for the exact calculated price, but then I had to ask for final cost correction from 15-25$ in average to cover for all the charges I incurred.
This time I prefer to ask for price with some padding, So I don't have to pay hundreds and hundreds of extra costs from my own pocket, and have to justify after the fact with tiny little price corrections here and there. To track all this was really time consuming, a real nightmare.
In the end, all this will come together. Shipping charges, Express Air mail can cost easily 12-15$ per kit, so the 10-15$ you paid extra will be the final shipping cost, that I won't charge you at the end. I keep an accurate track of all the payments and I ask only for the actual costs and shipping charges. Ask any of the previous GB members and you'll see I'm an honest guy. If there is any extra money left at the end, I'll give back to you. During the last GB, we had problem with the pulleys. Greg made replacement pulleys for free, and I distributed them (more than 50 shipping) all for free as well. I think we proved that we give a good service.
This GB is a lot of work, and need a lot of organization to make sure everything is order correctly, distributed, and shipped to the correct address, etc. You know I was there before and I know what I'm talking about.
The only way to get better price is to get a minimum of 50 motors, but not more than 50 PCB's (new PCB order batch is 30 or 50 or more). I already have order for incomplete order with just one motor or one PCB, so both Motor and PCB quantity won't match anyway. 50 motors seem impossible to reach for this GB unless I wait for months and then peoples will loose interest and the GB may well fail. So I prefer to close it now at about 30.
Hope it makes thing clearer. |
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| Algar_emi |
Received payments from: dnewma04, Doug Kim, fmena, Quan, Lignatom, Marxist, Spica, Tnargs
Thanks... |
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| quan |
| Many thanks Sylvain - our own gracious host/time/effort/sweats!!. |
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| nicoch46 |
HI spica
Yes, but group buys not every day ....if are compatible for now play in the planar ,one day with rd300 I will make a DIY TT ;)
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| Algar_emi |
Just been back from a computer crash. Restored everything and will update the payments list tomorrow.
nicoch46 to answer your question, this controller/pulley need a 12 inches platter to work. If your turntable uses a smaller driver sub-platter (like LP12), the custom pulley will not work. I think the Rega uses indeed such a smaller drive sub-platter, so the custom pulley would need to be different. The controller can stay the same, just the pulley need to be modify. Check the controller documentation, FAQ section. The optimal pulley/platter ratio is mentioned there and how to calculate it.
From Mark Kelly comments:
"The no-load voltage for the motor needs to be far enough below that for the motor to be able to develop enough torque to drive the platter.
Accordingly, I prefer a no-load voltage of 7.5 volts or less, the 110191 runs at 900rpm (x 20 for 45).
The absolute limit is 9V which is 1080RPM hence x 24.
"What pulley is needed
A: Mark Kelly said: "For the 110191 motor with the 12V controller the pulley to platter step up ratio MUST NOT be greater than 24:1
if you wish to include 45rpm" If using platter drive that is. Platters usually being 300mm?
That means that with the 12volt supply a pulley should be 13mm wide."
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| whubbard |
Algar,
Sorry for not getting payment to you last week. I was waiting for an invoice, but I guess you would just prefer us to send payment. I will get the $175 to you in the comming week.
-West |
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| Mark Kelly |
The Rega platter diameter (about 100mm) combined with a 17mm pulley will mean the motor runs at about 200RPM (33) and 270 RPM (45), requiring voltages of about 1.7V and 2.3V respectively. This is below the optimal range for the controller but it will work.
I believe Maxon have indicated that the motor was not designed to be run continuously at such slow speeds. I can only guess this is a lubrication issue so maybe if you do you could compensate by reducing the lubrication interval for the motor or use a thicker oil. |
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| Algar_emi |
Payments are progressing fine. Since I received more than I missed, here the missing ones:
Antonn, Giordano, MtFlyCaster, Neil_Kaye, PixelPlay, Robmil, Toaster, Whubbard, WireWiggler and Yioyos
I'll order the PCB's this week but wait for the complete payments to order the motors.
Bye. |
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| Algar_emi |
Received Payments from PixelPlay and Neil_Kaye. Thanks.. SB
Still missing:
Antonn, Giordano, MtFlyCaster, Robmil, Toaster, Whubbard, WireWiggler and Yioyos |
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| cygnus x1 |
| I hate to do this, but due to need to raise cash quick, I am selling my Maxon motor and brass pulley (tape drive). New never used. See my post in Market Place. Best offer. |
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| nicoch46 |
| Mark Kelly - Algar_emi thanks :) |
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| wirewiggler |
Algar,
I did not get a bill from paypal. I will email you my paypal account.
Thanks
Bill |
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| Algar_emi |
| WireWingler, just re-sent the total using the thread email. Thanks... |
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| Algar_emi |
Update.
Will order PCB tomorrow.
Greg cannot do the pulleys before he return from his holidays, after July 21st.
Motors delivery is 3-5 wks, closer to 3 weeks the last time I ordered
Received Payments from Greg Nuspel, Whubbard, WireWiggler. Thanks.
Still missing:
Antonn, Giordano, MtFlyCaster, Robmil, Toaster and Yioyos. Sent reminder emails. |
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| Algar_emi |
Payment Received from MtFlyCaster. Thanks.
I'm still missing a few buyers, but I fell confident I can sell all the 30 kits. So, I'll probably place an order for the motors this week as well since the delivery is so long for them. PCB delivery is 7 working days.
SB |
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| Algar_emi |
Updates:
PCB Ordered, QTY: 30
I have on order from this GB: 30 Motors, 29 PCB, 24 Pulleys.
So I still have one PCB to sell, and need to know if I need to order an other motor to go with it or not. You still have a chance to get the kit, but this is your last chance. Once I order the motors, there will be no more orders accepted...
Received Payment from zoobird07 in replacement from Jeffdavison that decided not to take the kit.
Still no reply from: Antonn, Giordano, Robmil, Toaster and Yioyos. Sent emails yesterday to remind them. |
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| deune |
I´ve read about your group buy this morning.
I want to ask you, is it possible to order one motor, pcb and pulley more ?
If´s possible, how have I to pay the receipt and do you send the parts to
germany?
Many thanks in advance.
deune |
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| agent.5 |
For those that wish to order parts kit or a "turn-key" solution, please take a look at
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/show...875#post1555875
I am selling my complete package (motor, pcb, pod, pod plate, pulleys, parts), as I have too many projects and not enough time. |
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| Algar_emi |
Deune you have mail. I sent you the following:
One buyer just drop out before payment. So his kit is available for you. Send me an email with your Name and complete shipping address. Also, be ready to pay for the parts because I would like to order the motors this week. The PCB are already order and I'll pay for them tomorrow. Thanks...
SB |
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| Algar_emi |
Received payment from Giordano. Thanks.
Still no reply from: Robmil, Toaster, Yioyos. |
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| byyaatch |
@ Algar_emi
can I still get on the communal order of motors, control board & pulleys ? |
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| robmil |
Hi Algar
Haven't forgotten... on holiday at the moment by will be back and will pay my part on 12th June.
thanks
Rob |
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| dht 4 me |
I just heard about this. I assume it is still open from the posts.
I am in for the motor and board. I am vacationing in Washington.
Just left Doc B's and will be back in 5 days. If you dont get a response from me immediately don't worry I'm in.
Bob |
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| Algar_emi |
UPDATES:
-Still two kits unsold, ready for you guys.
-Still no reply from two members.
Thanks Robmil for the update. I'll wait for your payment.
There is still 2 unsold PCB's and I didn't buy the motors yet, still waiting for reply from Toaster and Yioyos.
So, send me an email if you want the two remaining kits. Again, I need your diyaudio username, complete name and address and confirmation you can pay using PayPal. Also, be ready to pay right away because I'm about to order the motors. Thanks...
byyaatch and dht4me, you have mail. |
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| Algar_emi |
Got confirmation that the original motor quote prices are still valid.
Still no reply from two members, sent them countless emails but no result yet. |
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| Algar_emi |
| I have two possible new buyers for the last two PCB's. We will see how it turns out. |
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| Algar_emi |
Finally got reply from Robmil and Yioyos but still no reply from toaster.
Robmil is on business trip and confirm that he take the kit.
But Yioyos ended up buying a complete assembly kit from the
previous GB member VT67 from Belgium.
So I'm still short of three PCB. Still no confirmation from the new buyers. This delay the motors order. Sorry for the delay. |
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| Algar_emi |
One Part Kit available. I was supposed to assemble one PCB but this member cancel his order, but the parts were already ordered!
So I have for sale for the price of the parts a complete parts kit for the PCB (excluding the power transformer). If interested, send me an email. Don't for get it will be the same price as you would pay, so it is a no brainier.
Thanks...
SB |
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| Algar_emi |
| Parts kit was sold to quan. Thanks... |
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| Algar_emi |
UPDATE:
I have just one payment left and one kit to sell. So, I'm ok and will order the motors today.
This evening I'll also send the final pulleys order to Greg Nuspel.
So, there is still ONE KIT left. This is the last one and there won't be anymore after this one.
Kits shipping should start in August. Thanks for your patience and understanding. Payments reception took a long time to complete. |
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| whubbard |
Algar,
how much is the part kit you are selling? are there any parts than can be improved upon?
also, the pulley we are getting can do 45rpm, right?
thanks again
-west |
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| Algar_emi |
Payments all in finally. Thanks all of you.
From this point THERE WILL BE NO CANCELLATION OR REFUND ACCEPTED. The motors are ordered and are very expensive.
I cannot afford to get stuck with unsold motors. Thanks for your comprehension.
One kit left for sale.
Wubbard: Prices are listed on the thread but here they are:
Motor: 95$ + taxes, custom fee and shipping to me = Estimated to 115$
PCB: 30$ (not populated, no parts included)
Pulley: 25$ (String model only)
+ 3% PayPal fee
Total with all three parts: 175$
whubbard:
Pulley is custom built for this particular controller. It needs a specific diameter. Yes it supports both speed using the custom pulley. PCB parts listed into the documentation are very good quality, nothing to improve there. The motor is also one of the best you can buy. It is a very high quality, fully analog, speed controller. You'll need to pay many time more to get better one or of a different technology.
As a real DIY project, you still need to work to complete the project. You need a motor pod, an enclosure for the controller, buy the PCB parts and assemble it, etc... |
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| whubbard |
Algar,
I knew about all those prices, I was asking about the 'parts' kit you were selling. I see that it has been sold and the kit you are selling is the motor,pcb,pulley. Its all good, and Ill have no problem getting the parts as I order a lot with digikey.
-West |
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| Doug Kim |
I wonder which platter is popularly used for this motor and pulley?
Doug |
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| dht 4 me |
Could someone point me in the direction for the setup and component stuffing for the PCB. I want to get going on this project as soon as I get the motor and PCB
Bob
www.PlateauLight.com |
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| tnargs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Doug Kim
I wonder which platter is popularly used for this motor and pulley?
Doug |
I will be using it with my Teres. I think some years back a Maxon-based motor and controller design was developed for the original Teres project which culminated in a group buy of which I was part (for bearing and platter) but I had a motor, which I am now upgrading... |
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| Algar_emi |
| PCB arrived yesterday. |
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| dht 4 me |
Ok
I downloaded the PDF but there is no parts list or schematic.
I need those things to build the unit .
Does the PCb come with parts list and schematic?
Bob |
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| luvdunhill |
| quote: | Originally posted by dht 4 me
Ok
I downloaded the PDF but there is no parts list or schematic.
I need those things to build the unit .
Does the PCb come with parts list and schematic?
Bob |
sorry, here is the proper link to what you're seeking:
http://basenjes.de/tubes/data/sb/TT...Doc_Ver_1.4.pdf |
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| Algar_emi |
Received all the payments finally. There was so many changes again that I oversold one kit and I had to cancel this order. Sorry for the guy.
Motors and pulleys order will be placed tomorrow.
Then I'll leave for three weeks holiday (well overdue) and I won't have any Internet access, so wait before I return for updates. If we are lucky the motors will be in by then.
Thanks... |
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| Algar_emi |
UPDATES: Motors and pulleys ordered.
Greg Nuspel is making the pulleys. He's not back before 21st of July.
Motors delivery is 3-5 weeks (at order reception at Maxon USA), sooner is possible if the part is in stock...
Bye. |
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| Algar_emi |
For you guys, here the first user review of his controller in actual use:
My question:
How does the speed controller sound? My own Teres is still not completed.
His reply:
The sound is very, very good, there was an audio exibition here, and a friend asked if he could use "my" supply, I said yes and the result was totally crazy, of course that we had: All Audio Research gear, Preamp Ref 3, Two Reference monoblocks, CD 7, and the top RIAA from these guys, Sonus Faber Amati anniversary, all hooked up with Nordost Valhala cables.
Well, I think we have a winner :cool:
Thanks again to Mark Kelly for sharing his knowledge, experience and hard work. |
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| PixelPlay |
Thank's Algar_emi for all of your help, I am sure we are all waiting excitedly for the order to arrive. Enjoy you time off.
Thanks again
Greg |
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| sepolansky |
I see that I am too late here. I need to build a motor and controller for a Basis with a failed motor drive.
Are there any parts, mainly the Maxon 110191 and the Mark Kelly PCB anywhere to be had?
Anyone have second thoughts and want to sell their setups?
This is exactly what I have been looking for.
Stuart |
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| ciscomc |
| Gentlemen, I am new to this sight and am looking for a motor, controller and pulley for a current project. I guess I was a little late for an order, but if there are any remaining, and available for sale, please count me in. |
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| sepolansky |
I just bought two motors direct from Maxon USA for $115.95 each. Check the website for availability. The contact person for your area may be different than mine (mid-Atlantic). I spoke the Cindy Anderson.
I would still like to get the PCB if at all possible.
My application will drive a 28#, 300mm platter. Is that going to be a problem for this "peanut" motor?
Stuart |
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| Algar_emi |
I'll be gone for the next week, going to the States in fact, for holidays.
No more PCB or motors available.
Bye. |
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| lectropop |
Boys and girls,
Just ordered five Maxon 110191 dc motors. One for me, four for you. Should have two by end of week, the other three by mid-September.
Ben |
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| Algar_emi |
Hi. Still on vacation for a week. I still don't have the motors or the pulleys. So, I don't expect any shipment before end of August.
Got a reply from Greg for the pulleys. He will try to put them on production this week.
I'll re-contact all of you on an individual basis when I got each of your kit completed.
At this time you can forward me any special requests for the shipment.
Thanks...
SB |
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| lectropop |
| Just received my first two Maxons - let me know if you're interested |
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| Algar_emi |
Webby previous GB PCB problem. If you check the Maxon GB 2007 thread, you'll see that one user Webby had a very hard time to make his kit working. Part of the problem seems that Webby was not able to perform the tests we asked him to do. He was getting all kind of strange readings that were not making any sense. Not being able to help him solve his problem (including help from Mark Kelly himself), I asked him to send his assembled PCB back to me.
I started to work on the PCB. First look at the PCB and the main problem seems obvious and probably explain why Webby had such strange readings.
-Very bad quality solder joints. Most of them have a white, porous color indicating possible cold junction joint. There is also a lot of excess solder. I remove all the original solder and resoldered all connections for a nice, shiny solder joint.
-Discrete parts are not correctly installed. Most resistors and diodes are not correctly inserted into the PCB pads holes: legs left too long, almost touching other parts, legs bended under the PCB and actually touching close by pads making short (also there so much solder that these excess also make connection to other pads).
-PCB damages. Some traces, or pads are missing and were destroyed during the soldering. Possibly too much heat was use during the soldering. I even found pads that are missing the top to bottom hole plating. Worse, on some of these pads, the discrete part was not inserted into the hole, just touching the top pad, missing the part leg jumper effect of soldering a plated hole. So there was missing connections there too.
I pretty sure that most, if not all the problems he was experiencing with the circuit were cause by these assembly problem.
A few rules of thumb when doing PCB assembly:
-Use good quality, temperature adjustable soldering station. Don't use more heat than necessary, but enough for a quick and perfect solder joint.
-Use the proper solder iron tips, big ones for power traces, fine for normal work and very thin for SMD work. There is no general tip that can do all the work.
-If possible use solder with flux, forget ROHS. It is still making very bad joints (ask some European manufacturers that lost millions in defective parts and costly recalls). Even better use eutectic solder. I use 2% silver solder with lower soldering temperature. It makes perfect joint every time and protect the PCB and parts because I can use a lower temperature.
-Use just the right solder dimension. A too big solder wire will apply too much solder.
-When inserting discrete part, bend them correctly to fit the PCB holes pattern, insert them and make sure they fit correctly on the PCB, bend slightly the legs so they touch PCB hole walls, then solder them correctly. Cut the excess leg (to prevent short) flush to the solder.
-Good solder joint must have a shiny finish once done, with solder nicely going up the pin, not too much, but enough.
-When soldering a two sides PCB, you know if the solder joint is doing fine when soldering if you see the solder going down the plated hole and soldering the other side. Missing solder on the top side indicates insufficient solder.
-Once done remove solder flux with flux remover if there is too much.
-And finally the most important for the end, Practice, Practice, Practice. Use old PCBs, unsolder parts, resolder them, look at good PCB and try to get as good a result. It is a trade, almost an art, as painting. It takes weeks of practice to become a good assembly tech. Years to be an excellent one ;) |
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| yioryos |
Algar
Thanks for all the tips and advice.Out of curiosity,are you able to repair Webby's existing kit without changing to a new PCB?
Regards
George |
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| dnewma04 |
| Does anyone know how much mass could be realistically used for a platter with this motor/controller? Would something like a 50lb platter assembly be an issue? |
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| sklimek |
| Hi, I asked this question on another forum and was told the Teres cast acrylic 3" platter w/ lead shot weighs in around ~26 lbs. If that is the case I think it is possible that an extra 25 lbs could put a strain on the motor/controller and possibly bearing. |
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| Algar_emi |
Mark Kelly would be the person to ask about the design issues, torque limit, etc...
I'm still working part time on Webby PCB. I'll should be able to make it work. I'll add some wire jumpers in the worst case.
UPDATES:
Just received the motors invoice by email. It means the distributor got them. I should receive them soon.
Sent an email to Greg for an update on the pulleys. |
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| Algar_emi |
| UPDATE: Motors are received today. Just missing the pulleys. I can start shipping the kit with only the PCB and motor. Please check your email in the following days. |
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| AAA21 |
It's nice, but it has to cross Atlantic.
Thank you Algar! |
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| Algar_emi |
| Getting there. Shipping to Europe is usually really fast. Last time it was 3 days to Italy, small Air parcel. Not bad :angel: |
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| Mark Kelly |
The very first prototype was used on a TT with a quite massive platter, IIRC it was something like 50 kg.
A DC motor approximates a constant power source - at low speed (start up) it has high torque. If there are no significant energy losses it will eventually accelerate the most massive of platters.
Possible significant energy losses include bearing friction and belt slip. |
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| Algar_emi |
UPDATE:
Greg is making the pulleys at this very moment. There should be in the mail tomorrow. I'll be gone next week for work.
I'll be able to start ship kit in two weeks.
Thanks... |
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| robmil |
This is taking forever. My money could have appreciated by 2.5% if I had left it in a bank!
Don't forget to supply tracking numbers after posting. |
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| wirewiggler |
| Funny the last to pay is the most inpatient, you must remember this is nonprofit volunteer work so a little patience is due. |
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| Vinyl-Addict |
| quote: | Originally posted by dnewma04
Does anyone know how much mass could be realistically used for a platter with this motor/controller? Would something like a 50lb platter assembly be an issue? |
I'm using a turntable with a 48 pound platter and the 110191 is rotating it BUT....you must give it a running start. The motor produces very little torque running at the moderate rpm required to spin the platter at the correct speed.
Are you going to use a rubber belt, tape, string? If you use tape, you definitely must give the platter a push start. FWIW, I've been using this motor for over 2 years now, but as I said, it produces very little torque. |
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| KING35STAR |
| Hi ALGAR-EMI, I'm interested by a full kit, do you have one available? Thanks |
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| robmil |
I'm going to be using the VPI super platter and bearing which weighs in at approx 25lbs.... I see that should be fine.
R |
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| yioryos |
King35star
Prospathisa na sou kano e-mail alla den perase.Nomizo to group buy ehei kleisei.Eho ena kit sto spiti kainourio,pros stigmis omos perimeno plato kai rouleman yia to heiropioito pikap pou skopevo na ftiaxo,ean allaxo gnomi mporo na to paratheso yia polisi.
Giorgos
Canada |
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| WBS |
| quote: | Originally posted by robmil
This is taking forever. My money could have appreciated by 2.5% if I had left it in a bank!
Don't forget to supply tracking numbers after posting. |
That's funny! With all that extra money, you could have retired by now!
If you like, I'll take your place in the GB and send you 2.8% to make you feel better. :D |
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| robmil |
| You are absolutley welcome to take my place here in Central London. Petrol is running at £1.20 per litre, food has gone up 6-25% and the average 3 bed house in the suburbs now costs approx £400,000, and my car tax is about to go up to £420 per year... Oh and it rains!!!!! I'm moving to San Francisco in the next couple of years... it's cheaper, nicer and the rain in very do-able. |
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| WBS |
| quote: | Originally posted by robmil
You are absolutley welcome to take my place here in Central London. Petrol is running at £1.20 per litre, food has gone up 6-25% and the average 3 bed house in the suburbs now costs approx £400,000, and my car tax is about to go up to £420 per year... Oh and it rains!!!!! I'm moving to San Francisco in the next couple of years... it's cheaper, nicer and the rain in very do-able. |
So ... does that mean you're accepting my offer to take your place in the GB? |
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| Algar_emi |
Sorry, there is no kit left.
I fixed Webby PCB. Problems were numerous. They were:
-Q6 defective and not correctly connected to destroyed traces. Replaced and repaired traces
-Q2 was re-solder to existing cut pins, but the middle one was broken, micro fracture into the solder joint. Unsolder it, reseated correctly without pins extensions and re-solder.
-Q8 missing trace, causing one pin not making contact. Repaired.
-Missing trace between R31-R32. Was destroyed, repaired.
-Possible bad solder joints at numerous locations. I re-done all the soldering so I fixed that too.
The pcb is all repaired. I re-did all the soldering, installed correctly the resistors and caps and the three power transistors. It is fully tested and functional.
So again guys, assemble it correctly and it should work the first time.
For the record Robmil I just received the motors and still didn't get the pulleys. I cannot do miracle, just trying my best. Also I couldn't buy these expensive parts until everyone paid me ;)
Me and my wife are working full time. We have three boys (2 teenagers, one still a young puppy that need help for his homework every evenings) and I was gone 80 nights last year for work yes, I have a very understanding wife). Just the shipping (more than 10 pages of shipping labels) including packaging, going to the post office, etc can certainly take me a week or two doing it just during the evenings.
This is just a hobby and honestly I think I give you guys an excellent service.
Thanks for your patience and understanding. |
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| WBS |
Algar it is easily apparent, to anyone who takes the time to read the threads you've participated in, that you are very generous with your time and dedicated to the true meaning of DIY audio.
You are to be commended for your work! :cheers: |
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| Algar_emi |
| A good beer, that is a good idea :cool: I'm stuck into an hotel room without air conditioning and the air is really warm and humid (normal Quebec summer weather, rain and bugs). Just talked to my wife back at home and still didn't receive the pulleys. |
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| yioryos |
Robmil
If you complain about the London weather,then I should inform you that our summer here in Toronto,was the worst ever.Rain,rain and more rain.It actually broke a record for the most rainfall.Damn it rained every day this summer with the exception of maybe 5-8 dry days so far.
Algar is exceptional and needs to be praised for his efforts.He treated me with a lot of respect.Thanks Algar.
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| robmil |
firstly... Algar thank you for your time.
As for Canada.... I will only go as far up as San Francisco, maybe a bit more BUT North America is really too cold and wet for me. The views I know are great....
For anyone living outside the UK... be prepared when coming here for a holiday, it's EXPENSIVE! A cup of tea will cost you about $3 and a very average tasting meal in a very average restaurant in Central London will easily cost $50 each including an average bottle of wine. If you want something better be prepared to spend $100 each BUT then it's still not as good as any of the main hotels in Malaysia's Kuala Lumpur or the level of service you get in the States - North or Central. |
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| WBS |
| quote: | Originally posted by robmil
firstly... Algar thank you for your time.
As for Canada.... I will only go as far up as San Francisco, maybe a bit more BUT North America is really too cold and wet for me. The views I know are great....
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I wish S.F. was north of the border. We would have decent, affordable healthcare! Actually, Canada is quite a bit further north. :D
We do however have a thriving DIY community in the Bay Area! Follow the link:
http://www.burningamp.com/ |
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| robmil |
| Of course Canada is further North! We also have maps and atlases here :) |
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| Algar_emi |
Still didn't receive the pulleys, sent an email to Greg.
I should be able to ship the few orders that don't include a pulleys.
I still have in stock a few pulleys from the 2007 GB pulley replacement.
I'll be able to ship these as well.
I'll keep you posted. |
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| Algar_emi |
Contacted Greg. Pulleys were shipped only on last Friday, Aug 22nd
Should be here on today or tomorrow.
Will ship today Greg Nuspel (1 motor only) and Klimek (1 pcb only)
More to come everyday. Check your email.
Thanks...
SB |
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| Algar_emi |
I made a new doc, version 1.5 that contains a few new items into the FAQ section and a corrected schematic with R52 correction.
Bas Horneman will post it on his site shortly. Thanks... |
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| dnewma04 |
| I have tried to download that file and can finish the download, but I receive a message that the file is damaged and cannot be opened. |
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| Bas Horneman |
| quote: | I have tried to download that file and can finish the download, but I receive a message that the file is damaged and cannot be opened.
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Strange. Anyone else having problems?
Could you try again? Save it under a different name perhaps? |
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| dnewma04 |
Tried another computer and it worked perfectly. On my laptop, i can't open with acrobat or any other PDF reader, however. Looks like it's an issue on this end.
Thanks. |
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| Algar_emi |
Shipping Started:
The following kits are packed and ready to go, email sent, waiting for the shipping cost payment: AAA21, dockysmocky, fmena, and Robmil (Robmil a good way to get your parts rapidly is to pay for the shipping costs rapidly as well ;)
Shipped the following kits: Greg Nuspel, and SKlimek
In the next two days I'll be ready to ship these kits, please check your emails: damohpi, ligascon, Paudux, Spica, Toaster
Received the pulleys today but Greg forgot to send the small allen keys. They should be there shortly....
Thanks...
SB |
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| tnargs |
Why are there two schematics (page 3 and 14) and two parts lists (page 8 and 15-16)? |
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| fmena |
Payment sent to you Algar
Cheers
FM |
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| Algar_emi |
| tnargs, this project was originaly design by Mark Kelly, schematic page 14 and parts lists pages 15-16, are the original Mark project, the two other ones at the beginning of the documentation are for this PCB. I left Mark's info so you can compare them with mine and use some of his parts maybe instead. |
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| tnargs |
| thank you, now I know what to do. |
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| Algar_emi |
Shipping Updates and My errors again:
Shipped today kits for: Damophi, DHT4ME, Toaster
But I shipped by error PCB instead of motor to Ligascon & Paudux :bawling: I'm very sorry.
I sent you email asking for you to ship me back the PCB, I'll ship your PCB.
For the records, I put my house on sale since a month, but I need to finish the basement to get the price I asked...So, I'm working late at night and all the week-ends on that. I packed the kits yesterday at night, was tired and made this stupid error. Very sorry again.
I should get the missing Allen keys by tomorrow and will resume the shipping, without error I hope. I need to close this GB as soon as possible. I'll be gone for most of September for work, so not much time left. |
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| Toaster |
Thanks again for all your hard work Algar. I've paid the P&P.
All the best,
Toaster. |
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