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F5 article is out - Click HERE for Original Thread
vizion
check out 6moons
Zen Mod
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/firstwatt7/f5.html
vdi_nenna
Nice read. Can't wait to see the pre-amp stuff too!
Peter M.
The article? Where? I see only a short review.
Manu
Not to forget the jammies-pic ... essential.
:clown:
Dennis Hui
quote:
Originally posted by Manu
Not to forget the jammies-pic ... essential.
:clown:

Yes, the Papa in jammies pic is priceless.

And the tidbit about the B1. Definitely looking forward to
seeing that.
Nelson Pass
The full article will appear soon at www.firstwatt.com as soon as
Mr. Harrington can get to it.
seventenths
quote:
Originally posted by Nelson Pass
The full article will appear soon at www.firstwatt.com as soon as
Mr. Harrington can get to it.

Which, coincidentally will be the day that I find the article on the shelves :) Hard copies are nice to have around though.


7/10
planet10
quote:
Originally posted by seventenths
Which, coincidentally will be the day that I find the article on the shelves :) Hard copies are nice to have around though.

My aXp arrived today... :)

dave
jacco vermeulen
quote:
Originally posted by Manu
Not to forget the jammies

Mmm, the thumb on Jack's 'informal attire' picture seems to be pointing at me.

Will be interesting to see in which way the B1 differs compared to Mr Rollin's line-driver.
(Eeek, i'm getting retinal images of the kind of pajammies a Unix-hacker wears)
SCD
Well I too finally got my copy of AxP. It seems to take a little longer for things to make to the west coast of Canada.

I spent last night studying the article for the first time. I really like the way Nelson wrote the piece. He used a style that presents things in a bit of a matter of fact format and the thoughts flow together very well.
Thanks very much to Nelson.

Now to work on understanding the details and gathering parts.

Another fun adventure
Stefanoo
sorry, i am sure this is a stupid question.....but i am wondering....

Is it possible to achieve more power and more class A range and a balanced version with the F5? (i don't know...by paralleling more output devices?)
bananaslug86
quote:
Originally posted by Manu
Not to forget the jammies-pic ... essential.
:clown:

I like this picture better

I guess the beard has been a long time feature.

Slug
dw8083
quote:
Originally posted by bananaslug86


I like this picture better

I guess the beard has been a long time feature.

Slug


I thinking we should take up a collection to bribe Papa to come to the next Burning Amp Festival in a 3 piece suit. :smash:

-David
Magura
quote:
Originally posted by dw8083



I thinking we should take up a collection to bribe Papa to come to the next Burning Amp Festival in a 3 piece suit. :smash:

-David


Yeah, and make him track down the guy whom lend him the shoes:D

Magura :)
seventenths
Yeah, and make him track down the guy whom lend him the shoes

Sounds tortuous... I'd guess Nelson is a sandals man :cool:


7/10
jacco vermeulen
quote:
Originally posted by bananaslug86
the beard has been a long time feature.

Make that a 4-piece suit, if he takes it off nobody knows what he looks like.
Stefanoo
quote:
Originally posted by Stefanoo
sorry, i am sure this is a stupid question.....but i am wondering....

Is it possible to achieve more power and more class A range and a balanced version with the F5? (i don't know...by paralleling more output devices?)


Nobody?!?

:xeye:
jacco vermeulen
Stefano,

8mA * 24V ~200mW, the maximum dissipation the J108/K370 can manage.(without a heatsink hat)
The J74/J108 only handle 25V Max, P-channel JFETs are the common limiting factor (though the Jammie master said they can take more in practice)

There's little point in adding output devices without higher rail voltages.
Balanced operation is a possible option, and already mentioned several times in the F5 thread.
Variac
by cleverly proposing a visit when Jason, the mysterious person who started this silly place was visiting me, I got to visit the pirate room


This is Jason threatening Nelson with a Kung Fu move or maybe I just have forgotten what was happening.. Nelson looks properly terrified. Note the bench in the back- the famous "kitchen table" of First Watt.
Variac
The Pirate Room, and Nelson, the vicious dog (ZM's brother) and myself. Nice wine I was forced to drink! Count the amps just left around! the real rack is off to the right, you can see part of it..


That's a copy of Weird Science comics on the upper left on top of the bookcase
Zen Mod
quote:
Originally posted by Variac
by cleverly proposing a visit when Jason, the mysterious person who started this silly place was visiting me, I got to visit the pirate room


This is Jason threatening Nelson with a Kung Fu move or maybe I just have forgotten what was happening.. Nelson looks properly terrified. Not the bench in the back- the famous "kitchen table" of First Watt.


gimme higher res - I wanna see pic on that scope ;)
Variac
Here are some of the "speaker drivers in boxes" that Nelson keeps for experimentation and has occasionally mentioned
Vix
quote:
Originally posted by Variac
Here are some of the "speaker drivers in boxes" that Nelson keeps for experimentation and has occasionally mentioned

Oh, I see that the rack is full...

Papa can send some of those speakers to me, for proper disposal...

:devilr:
jacco vermeulen
quote:
Originally posted by Variac
D-Vicious

Check, a wino dog, that solves the fence problem.
(don't like the look of the body-bag racks though)
Nelson Pass
quote:
Originally posted by Variac
That's an Aleph J behind my elbow..

Actually that's an X150.5
Variac
I found it! The small rectangle partially in the pic on the left. It wasn't all pretty,as here Nelson is enraged after I made some careless comment about cascoding (nah! I'm lying)
The important thing is there's the rack in the back.
Variac
And finally the 3 after a grueling listening session, with Jason in the middle (annoyingly young, no?)
jacco vermeulen
Can't we at least keep a picture of the other bird ?

Most beautiful hood ornament ever, appropiately called the "Bird Eagle"
(BowTie rules the Hood as well: Lookie Here )
Zen Mod
quote:
Originally posted by jacco vermeulen
Can't we at least keep a picture of the other bird ?

Most beautiful hood ornament ever, appropiately called the "Bird Eagle"
(BowTie rules the Hood as well: Lookie Here )


naah ......

I didn't realized that picture can be un-appropriate ........

anyway - she is not naked now ;)

even if disc isn't played :rofl:
Variac
Choky should have been a fashion designer
KBK
Thank god for modern cars. No hood ornaments. It'd be impossible to survive being flipped over the hood of one of those cars, you'd be cut wide open from neck to crotch. With a blunt instrument, no less. Very messy.

To keep on subject, I just came be back from the book store, I bought the rag with the article. An absolute rarity for me. I was curious. Obviously (And I know nothing but the looking at the circuit in the article) that it should be Mills Wirewound for the 3W resistor. There are other ways to do it, but that might be the best financial choice as well as for it's own reasons.

BTW, I'm a Huge Tesla/Russel/Keely/Shauberger/etc fan...so the 'The Quiet Earth' Poster did not escape my attention. Bruno was awesome in that film. One of my top 10 films, and I've seen, oh, well over 5000 films.

Edt: 5 and 10 watt mills would likely be judged to 'sound better'. Maybe. Depends on construction.
Zen Mod
quote:
Originally posted by Variac
Choky should have been a fashion designer


God forbid!

that's just little less worse than be a politican!

(and slightly worse than be a architect ............ )


:clown: :rofl:

edit:

I'll tell my ( better lookin' ) brother that next time he bite ya ............


:devily:
Mitch Alsup
In looking at the schematic at:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/firstwatt7/f5.html

Can anyone eludicate why R3 (600) has a significantly different value than R4(.47) ?
KBK
That's not the final finished circuit that was published in the 'xpress mag.

IIRC, it is an acknowledged error, both should read 600(?) Ohms.

Hack that I am, Even I can make some sort of cranial sense out of this puppy.

Thanks for the simple one, Nelson. I can visualize this one in a single shot. Not that I've spent much time at doing such things, though.

I'm a 'flow' kinda guy, and this one's got flow. I'm into more fundamental issues than circuitry, in general, as it seems simpler to me. Fix it all on the most base level possible....and the rest just follows, like open doors with no more keys required, as the keys and doors were only there due to not knowing the master points.

Maybe it's just me.
seventenths
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/atta...tamp=1208280290

For the actual schematic.

7/10
NihonJR06
for those who don't have access
at Audioxpress issue:(


http://www.firstwatt.com/downloads/...r%20PassDIY.pdf

good reading:D

Sayonara;)
Manu
quote:
Originally posted by Variac

I would like to know which wine Nelson is drinking on this pic.
:)

manu
Nelson Pass
I believe it was the Simi Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon, '02.

(not that I recall, it is simply the best I keep in the house).
Netlist
It looks like only Jason and the dog (have to look up his/her name.. Leica, Aleph?) are sober. ;)

/Hugo
Variac
I was buddies with the heiress of the Simi Winery family while in university, but they sold it later. One of the good things about the place Nelson and I both attended - it had an excellent enology department. I was going to be a winemaker for about a quarter until I discovered it involved lots of learning and hard work. I did get to have an elegant lunch with the Mondavi family in one of their vinyards because one of their sons was in a class I took .

I didn't know Nelson or anything then, also he is OLDER than me I think :devilr: I guess we were there at the same time for 2 years.. There WAS a lot of interest in audio there though. Possibly because the campus was quite a ways from anything interesting. Possibly because it was the '70's

Nelson looks quite happy indeed. I guess good sound makes him rapturous -Or maybe because he wasn't listening to my pontifications!

I dunno about the dog - he was rolling around on the floor constantly whereas we only did that occasionally-so there!

Mark
Nelson Pass
The dog's name is Jack, and I took some enology too. :cool:
jacco vermeulen
quote:
Originally posted by Variac
dunno about the dog

Goody, with a name like that there's at least one who doesn't listen a lot.

(the picture in post 27 reads more like : Pal, let's step outside and settle once and for all who's the vinologist here !)
gaborbela
HI
I would like to know if somebody did already has the lay out for the F5 amplifier . I would like to give build these amp .
It is so sinple ,I believe it sound sweet .
Any information about the lay out please send to mathelaszlo2@yahoo.ca
Thanks Mr Pass
Regards
Nelson Pass
I am about 2 weeks out on an F5 layout for PassDIY.
despotic931
quote:
Originally posted by Nelson Pass
I am about 2 weeks out on an F5 layout for PassDIY.


Yippie!!!
gaborbela
Hello
Thanks Mr. Pass.
Greetings
xaudiox
quote:
Originally posted by Nelson Pass
I am about 2 weeks out on an F5 layout for PassDIY.

Nice! Cant wait.. :D thanks
korben69
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

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