| SY |
What is Burning Amp?
See us at www.burningamp.com
An annual experiment in temporary community dedicated to radical self-expression and self-reliance. To truly understand this event, one must participate.
You belong here and you participate. You're not the weirdest kid in the classroom there's always somebody there who's thought up something you never even considered.
You're here to survive. What happens to your brain and body when exposed to 107 dB sounds, moisture wicking off your body and dehydrating you within minutes? You know and watch yourself. You'll want to reconsider drinking that alcohol (or taking those other substances) you brought with you the mind-altering experience of Burning Amp is its own drug.
You're here to create. Since nobody at Burning Amp is merely a spectator, you're here to build your own new world. You've built an egg for a loudspeaker enclosure, a tube amp made of light sticks, a preamp that looks like a shark's fin. You've covered your cables in silver, you're wearing a straw hat and a string of pearls, or maybe a skirt for the first time. You withstand the laughter of others.
You're here to experience. Listen to the music in the expanse of nothingness with your eyes closed.
You're here to celebrate. On Sunday night, we'll burn the Amp. As the procession starts, the circle forms, and the amp ignites, you experience something personal, something new to yourself, something you've never felt before. It's an epiphany, it's primal, it's newborn. And it's completely individual.
You'll leave as you came. The waste you make and the objects you consume leave with you. Volunteers will stay for weeks to return the venue to its pristine condition.
But you'll take the world you built with you. When you head back down the dusty roads toward home, you slowly reintegrate to the world you came from. You feel in tune with the other geeks that shared the same community. Over time, vivid images still dance in your brain, floating back to you when the weather changes. The Burning Amp community, whether your friends, your new acquaintances, or the Burning Amp project, embraces you. At the end, though your journey to and from Burning Amp are finished, you embark on a different journey forever.
Where is Burning Amp?
The First Annual Burning Amp Festival will be held in beautiful downtown San Francisco. The address will be a deep, dark secret except to those who wish to experience. The space we have is huge and wonderful.
When is Burning Amp?
October 20-21, 2007. Start getting ready
EDIT: It is now October 21 only, but from 10AM to midnight!
Who is Burning Amp?
It's you, it's us, it's the community. And there will be some incredibly interesting guests, talks, and demonstrations. As they are announced, they will be added to this thread. (advance peek: equipment demos and displays from the ever-genial Nelson Pass, a talk on methods of subjective evaluation and a speaker measurement clinic by yours truly, and the introduction and explication of a radically new ribbon speaker technology by its inventor. Bring the stuff you're proud of and unleash your Inner Geek.
(with many apologies to Molly Steenson)
NOTE: go to this companion thread for more posts detailing what people are bringing..
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/show...threadid=109620
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| Zen Mod |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
What is Burning Amp? ................... |
hey Sy
just gimme a name of that drek you use;
I wanna some .........
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| Zen Mod |
yup- yeha!
that's the sign that Sy found same stash Molly Steenson use
:D
I still wanna some .......:)
http://www.burningman.com/ |
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| lgreen |
| I've not been to it, but I heard that if you go people are more than happy to share.... |
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| SY |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zen Mod
hey Sy
just gimme a name of that drek you use;
I wanna some .........
:clown: |
I'm high alright, but not on false drugs. I'm high on the REAL thing- powerful gasoline, a clean windshield, and a shoeshine. Over. |
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| Zen Mod |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
I'm high alright, but not on false drugs. I'm high on the REAL thing- powerful gasoline, a clean windshield, and a shoeshine. Over. |
:D |
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| scott wurcer |
Hey SY,
I'm scheduled to be with Jimmah in LA the week after doing the Habitat thing. There is a chance I might be able to join you folks, no amps to burn though. |
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| SY |
| Scott, don't ask questions, just do it! |
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| Zen Mod |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
............don't ask questions, just do it! |
as you probably know- I'll do everything to fulfill my promise to host of TBAF - he'll burn some seeds of crazy smiling vegetable .......
edit:
mebbe I can urge him to make one Poor Man's All Eminence OB for that occasion ? with all that funny blobs and blurps and sticks on cones...
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| ashok |
Hi Sy, you got me all excited ! I'm going to explore all possibilities to be able to make it half way across the globe to attend that !
Sounds like it's going to be REAL cool !
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| wrenchone |
| Interesting - I live right down in Silicon Valley, and I may even have an amp or two to burn if I can get off my lazy butt and get them into enclosures. |
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| ashok |
How about "Im a Burning Amp Hippie " T shirt ?:D
Can be made here easily. |
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| Variac |
| quote: | | I'm high on the real thing: Powerful amplifiers, burned fingers, the smell of lead solder... |
Scott Wurcer? You gotta come! Only bring Jimmah if he promises NOT to give a presentation..
Yes, we elves here in S.F. have been working on this for awhile. Well worth a road trip from wherever you are. Choky, you can just swim over... Take the canal though..it's shorter. I guess we need a prize for longest trip to get here. For Ashok!
Rumors are that there will be a live feed of events....
:captain:
Variac the Destroyer |
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| scott wurcer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Variac
Scott Wurcer? You gotta come! Only bring Jimmah if he promises NOT to give a presentation..
Yes, we elves here in S.F. have been working on this for awhile. Well worth a road trip from wherever you are. Choky, you can just swim over... Take the canal though..it's shorter. I guess we need a prize for longest trip to get here. For Ashok!
Rumors are that there will be a live feed of events....
:captain:
Variac the Destroyer |
I could bring a huge pile of reject op-amps to burn. We could put them in a big Wicker Man. |
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| gl |
SY and Variac,
This gathering sounds like a great idea. I can't say as I care for the name living as close as I do to the namesake event and knowing way too many people who attend that.
Heres a question: Will there be an opportunity to bring things we might want to trade or sell? - a swap shop or flea market opportunity if you will? This is northern California after all!
Graeme |
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| SY |
| Nothing formal at this point, but sure, absolutely, bring whatever you'd like to sell/swap/give away. |
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| AR2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by gl
SY and Variac,
This gathering sounds like a great idea. I can't say as I care for the name living as close as I do to the namesake event and knowing way too many people who attend that.
Heres a question: Will there be an opportunity to bring things we might want to trade or sell? - a swap shop or flea market opportunity if you will? This is northern California after all!
Graeme |
Hello Graeme,
here is the third elf. It is a great idea to bring stuff for swap or sale. That is exactly the concept behind our festival - great gathering, awesome sound, getting to know each other, hear our One and Only presenters and maybe take home some goodies!
( I am not going to list surprises) |
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| DSP_Geek |
Drat you! Now I have to pull my socks up and actually finish building the project!
How big is the room, by the way? Will there be a location for half-space speakers a la NHT 3.3?
Francois. |
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| SY |
| The spaces is VERY big and very versatile. A 3.3-type would work out very well in there. For speaker measurement, there is a large outdoor area, mostly shielded from wind, and a forklift to get things well off the ground. |
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| DSP_Geek |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
The spaces is VERY big and very versatile. A 3.3-type would work out very well in there. For speaker measurement, there is a large outdoor area, mostly shielded from wind, and a forklift to get things well off the ground. |
Dammit, now I don't have an excuse. Oh, well, I didn't really need to sleep for the next couple of months... |
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| gearheaddruid |
| Would the space be an old hanger that we might have seen on tv? Amps don't burn well but old speaker cabinets do! Got a bunch of those I could get rid of. Sounds like a great time if I can get off work. |
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| SY |
| We'll soon have a web site where you can sign up and be told the super-secret location, along with other fun info. |
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| Variac |
| quote: | | here is the third elf. |
Ah yes the Third Elf, and he is the one supplying our wonderful site, which isn't a hanger , but will require a bit of tuning, The big room will need to be "adjusted " in size. The three of us are working on that now and are confident we will get it to perform.
Give him credit, I was just wringing my hands and bemoaning the shame of not having an event here, when they already have had one now in England, and various times in Canada. Then AR2 stepped up ready to make it happen!! Helps that he has a great place!
And wait 'til you see the lounge! A great hangout to have a refreshment and chat with the members you have argued with for years, or catch a discussion or presentation. See pic below. Don't worry, we'll get rid of the pesky plants so you can belly up to the bar.
The swap meet sounds like a great idea- especially you should bring parts that you have accumulated over the years and know that you will never use..
Also we'll have a Concours D'Elegance: A place to exhibit your craftmanship even if you don't necessarily want to demo it...
More Also, you don't NEED a case on your project to give us a listen. Just bring it.
Also More Also- The dirty secret is that your don't REALLY have to burn up your amp- just let us see it and/or hear it and if it decides to burn up....well that's fine too... |
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| wrenchone |
The case really helps keep the amp guts together when you sling the thing in the back of the car...
Things I'm thinking of bringing -
1) A kinda - sorta blameless amp clone as a "plain vanilla" reference
2) A zen-ish Class A amp
3) A sand state/vacuum state amp with JFET front end (triode cascoded), 1625 outputs and a switcher supply.
If I get the last two working in time, I'd sure like to try them out with a high sensitivity speaker. |
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| Variac |
| Hey, "high sensitivity are us" this is Nor Cal- Bring it ON!!!:devilr: |
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| DCPreamp |
Sounds like a very cool event. I cant wait to see details and read more about it. This should be fun and interesting!
Cheers,
Paul |
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| PSz. |
Burning Amp! Count me in. Unless my wife goes into labor early.
I will bring a couple small amps. And maybe some to burn. |
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| ashok |
Will there be a cauldron ( bowl sounds too small!) of punch ?
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| ashok |
I forgot to ask.
Does one stay elsewhere and come for the meet every day or are there facilities at the meet location ?
My impression of the US after my previous visits is that everything is many many miles apart all over the country - possibly less so on the East Coast.
So what all does one have to plan for ?
Sorry for the apparently silly questions. It would help to know where the meet is located.
Cheers,
Ashok. |
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| Variac |
Ashok and others that this will help:
There will be good refreshments, but hey, one of those dry ice halloween punchbowls-- that sounds like a good idea!!
OK, I realize that we from San Francisco like to go on forever about how we like our city, but a couple of million tourists a year can't be wrong- right?
First, SF is very unusual for a US city. It is only seven by seven miles, and surrounded on three sides by water. For this reason it is very compact and it is easy to get around; by bus, streetcar, cable car, taxi, etc...
The population of people actually living here is about 700,000 so while it is a city- it's a tiny one.. .
The meet is in an industrial area, so there isn't lodging next door, but nothing is very far away.
Hotels generally aren't cheap , but you can look into that online and in guidebooks. Since you brought it up first, you are welcome to stay at my place for the nights of the show if you actually come!!!
The weather here in October is some of the best of the year. While there is a chance of rain, otherwise it is sunny and clear. Summer really isn't as good because of the fog...
There are over 9 million people in the SF Bay Area outside of the city itself, so I suspect most attendees will be driving into the city. This would fit your image of US urban areas being spread out.. By the way: Lots of free parking available at the event site.
For those with friends to stay with in Silicon Valley (Sunnyvale, San Jose, Palo Alto, Cupertino, Mountain View, etc. ) It is about an hour to SF, and there is train service from many of the towns..
One of the things I enjoy most about DIY Audio is its international flavor, so I would love to get a good mix of people from everywhere.. Of course if you are coming a decent distance make sure to stay at least a couple of days extra to see the area. It's quite beautiful....
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| Magura |
Hey I just found out that the plane ticket is like 850usd....anybody got a spare room? :D
Magura :) |
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| Zen Mod |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magura
Hey I just found out that the plane ticket is like 850usd....anybody got a spare room? :D
Magura :) |
buy me a ticket from Serbia and back and I'll find you a room
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| ashok |
Hi Variac ,
Thanks for the invite and I think I'll take it up.
I have friends around in the Bay Area but most are too far away to drop me every day. However I could get to your place on day one and stay the nights of the show as you suggested and go back to my friends place after that. Solves the commute problem also very neatly.
While I drive here, getting around to driving there is not something I've solved yet ! The Indian driving license was frowned upon for a very long time !
OK , now I'll really have to start working HARD .
Boy , this sounds exciting . I've always travelled on work , this is something else !
Cheers,
Ashok. |
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| scott wurcer |
| quote: | Originally posted by ashok
The Indian driving license was frowned upon for a very long time !
Cheers,
Ashok. |
For good reason!
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| ashok |
".......For good reason!......"
Yes Scott , that's applicable to most drivers over here.
However I'm a careful driver and my friends tell me I'm in the wrong country !
:D
Cheers,
Ashok. |
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| Variac |
I think I could find Magura a spot somewhere, with someone, if not at my place. I think the woman in your avatar lives down the street! :bigeyes:
You would have to bring at least one of your outragiously machined components for the show...
You are welcome to leave some big heatsinks here to lighten your return trip!!!
Variac |
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| Magura |
| quote: | Originally posted by Variac
I think I could find Magura a spot somewhere, with someone, if not at my place. I think the woman in your avatar lives down the street! :bigeyes:
You would have to bring at least one of your outragiously machined components for the show...
You are welcome to leave some big heatsinks here to lighten your return trip!!!
Variac |
Well...Mrs. Magura is not gonna be happy to hear that Miss Monroe lives down the street :D
Counting out that little detail, I just might take you up on the offer and drop by...
Magura :) |
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| SY |
| If Mark can't find you something downtown, there's always a room up here. |
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| AR2 |
Here is the official event logo.
:) :) :) |
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| jlsem |
| quote: | | I think the woman in your avatar lives down the street! |
Marilyn Monroe with an Adam's apple - they're a dime a dozen these days.
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| Magura |
| quote: | Originally posted by jlsem
Marilyn Monroe with an Adam's apple - they're a dime a dozen these days.
John |
I'd prefer the Monroe's without the Adam's apple ;)
Magura :) |
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| Magura |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
If Mark can't find you something downtown, there's always a room up here. |
Something tells me you just got yourself a couple of visitors :D
Magura :) |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Variac and there is train service from many of the towns.. |
How close is the nearest BART stop?
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| Zen Mod |
| quote: | Originally posted by AR2
Here is the official event logo.
:) :) :) |
you mean this:
(I like it) :)
edit :
you'll earn at least one additional bottle of Rakiica if ya bring me T-shirt next year :clown: |
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| AR2 |
Bart is close but not close to walk from. The bus station is close.
The "Venue" is photo studio and is located in the area called Portrero Hill. It is about 15-20 min. driving time from airport and 10 min from downtown. It is common not to have car in the city as public transportation works well, as well as cab service is good. |
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| Variac |
I'm sure we will figure out exactly what BART station to get off at, and the correct bust o take.. (bust? that damn Magura's avatar) I meant "bus to take" .
We will then post the info on the website when we (actually AR2) get it done...
Some towns have BART, other towns have a train called Caltrain that also goes to the city. That train has a station in the city where there are also buses to everywhere.
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| Magura |
Yeah right, just blame me.....
Magura ;) |
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| gl |
Hi AR2,
Just a clarification for the out-of-towners; that would be "Potrero" rather than "Portrero" - correct?
And here I had thought you guys had snagged that neat cylindrical building on Telegraph hill. But I'll get over it.
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by AR2
Bart is close but not close to walk from. The bus station is close.
The "Venue" is photo studio and is located in the area called Portrero Hill. |
Maybe, maybe not... having seen where the event is on Google Earth, i have (in earlier visits) walked from about a 1/3 of the way from Mocone to the venue back to the Fairmount (and that is largely uphill)
dave |
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| AR2 |
Correct, sorry.
Once I finish web, we will have directions and everything you guys will need. For now my advice for out of towners will be cab or bus #23. The "closest " bart station is 24th St and is just too far. I will have address, google map, and everything else on web. And on the top of that we will be able to give you additional directions if needed. |
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| Magura |
Hmm, it sounds like one better bring an aboriginal ;)
Magura :) |
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| lousymusician |
Heck, I'm a mere 100 miles away, and I can crash at my folk's house in Millbrae, so how can I miss this? Sounds like fun!
My Tubelab amp has handles, so it's practically begging to come along. What will there be for sources and speakers?
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| Variac |
Funny you should ask:| quote: | Hello Mark:
I will be glad to support the demonstration of the Orion speakers at the show. I will talk to Siegfried about the Pluto speakers as they are also
available for the DIY customers.
Best regards,
Don Naples
dnaples@woodartistry.com |
Unfortunately Siegfried Linkwitz will be out of the country during our show, which is too bad, because he mentioned giving a talk :bawling:
BUT it looks like Don Naples is going to save the day by at least bring those speakers most of us are curious about :spin:
I think we're getting some momentum here...
Variac |
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| Jeb-D. |
| Burning Amp Festival :D Perhaps I can make it. |
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| ashok |
Will there be some test equipment ? A scope , oscillator , dummy load and DMM ? Some amps might emit ' blue smoke' and we might want to fix them !
I guess for the source there will be at least a few CD players around ? I guess people bringing amps must bring interconnects and (IEC) power cords also. Extension boxes ?
Wonder what range of loudspeakers will make it to the show.
Hmm.....it's getting complicated already!
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| SY |
| I would suspect that, with all these geeks around, there will be some test equipment. My next task is to find a USB sound card that will work with my laptop so I can do the speaker measurements- generally, I use my desktop for that, but it's a bit impractical to haul down there. |
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| neil_kaye |
Any further momnetum on a trade table?
I have a coupl eof amps and speakers that i would love to trade. Perhaps we can start a list? |
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| SY |
Any list would be for convenience, there's no real restriction- bring what you like, barter and trade as you wish.
We'll have the website up and (partially) running in the next few days. AR2 managed to snag www.burningamp.com for us! There will be sign-up sheets and we'll leave room for a short message from each registrant. |
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| GaryB |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
When is Burning Amp?
October 20-21, 2007. Start getting ready
Who is Burning Amp?
It's you, it's us, it's the community. |
As a recent transplant from New York to Silicon Valley, this seems too good to pass up. I know there must be a lot of tube geeks here but I hadn't run into any yet, so definitely count me in.
I'd be glad to help out if you need assistance, with either some equipment or some hands on effort.
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| kstlfido |
Just wanted to say what a fantastic idea. Dunno what I can bring, but would love to attend. I have a sofia so I can curve for kicks.
The SF tube audio enthusiat's group seems to be withering...this would be a great for bay area audio (and beyond) to re-connect.
Anyone taking tubes to the playa?....:) |
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| Magura |
Yeah it's sure gonna be good fun. It seems like we will end up with quite a big number of attendants, this could even surpass the swedish diy-meetings I have attended in the past :)
Magura :) |
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| anatech |
Hi All,
I'm going to try to see if I can get down there. It sounds like an excellent time will be had by all!
-Chris |
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| Variac |
| quote: | | Will there be some test equipment ? A scope , oscillator , dummy load and DMM ? Some amps might emit ' blue smoke' and we might want to fix them ! |
Well, if Chris Anatech comes we'll have a Tech par excellance!!!!
We just need the equipment...
As far as the swap goes, I would like to see lots of parts being traded in addition to just finished components.. |
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| anatech |
Hi Mark,
Well, now I'm self conscious!
I could bring an HP 339A THD meter / oscillator. The problem is getting it through customs and in one piece. I'd rather some local gear.
An AP 1 or 2 would be faster I'm sure. I don't know how to operate one of these. Another piece for the wish list (and who wouldn't love one of these!).
An analog scope would be useful to use to check for oscillations, and connected to a THD meter, to show crossover distortion and other artifacts. A spectrum analyzer on the output of a THD meter would be very informative. Some fast testing and bias adjustment might be possible, but I wouldn't want to emphasize this.
A pair of dummy loads would be useful, again they would be difficult to get across the border. I do have some that could travel.
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| bear |
My space is bummed. burningampman ---> :hot:
Wrong coast! Can't get there. Not enough ca$h, not enough free time...
Guess the left coast deserves an answer to JC's NY Noise and those guys up in Oregon?
And what's this about a "revolutionary" new ribbon speaker?
The last "revolutionary" ribbon speaker via a designer from Sweden (?) is patented, and reading the patent it seems not so very revolutionary at all... but what do I know?
And btw, it's supposed to be in a big desert!!
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| kstlfido |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
Well, me, of course. |
Where will you be camped? Tubes on the playa...great! |
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| Variac |
Bear,
Sorry you can't make it. You seem to have the right attitude!
Would love to hear one of your amps.
The ribbons might be more evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but they are exceptional... I'll let AR2 fill us in on that..
It's in a BIG BUILDING. maybe a good thing as a BIG DESERT Isn't so great for listening..
kstifido
I think that SYcamp will be called the "Large Listening Room"
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| SY |
Yes, we'll see what those BIG 15 WATTS will do!
Hey, is your F4 built yet? If not, can you change the input resistors from 47k to 100k and have the 100k resistors matched? It's a FET input, so that ought to be pretty arbitrary. I've got an interesting high voltage preamp idea on the workbench and may have finally found an appropriate use for the odd CV1988 sitting in my tube rack... |
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| Variac |
You talkin' to me, bud?
I can accomodate you , but we need a way to also try Zen Mod's Pumpkin pre if he gets it here.. Probably there will be various F4's though.. (like maybe some REAL ones from Nelson) so mine can be "special" I'm afraid it will sound so good I'll have to buy the pre from you!:rolleyes: There have been lots of tube/SS hybrids with greater or lesser success, but I get the feeling that we're looking at greater success here. Appears that the sound of the pre really gets through from what I've read.. Plus if you have balanced outputs and I have a pair of F4's we will have 100watts/ch. That should fill the room! |
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| SY |
| That's the idea- this circuit will only work if the load is balanced. But, at least on the bench, it seems to work great for a truly balanced load. |
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| bear |
| quote: | Originally posted by Variac
Bear,
Sorry you can't make it. You seem to have the right attitude!
Would love to hear one of your amps.
The ribbons might be more evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but they are exceptional... I'll let AR2 fill us in on that..
It's in a BIG BUILDING. maybe a good thing as a BIG DESERT Isn't so great for listening..
kstifido
I think that SYcamp will be called the "Large Listening Room"
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Ummm...
Come visit here, you can hear, or actually not hear, one of my amps!
:cool:
I do have a really new design amp that is still sitting in proto mode that would be perfectly neat for this adventure... of course I would have to cloak it in black darkness in order to maintain the integrity of its secretness!! <grabs can of flat black spray paint>
I'm open to offers to "defray" the costs associated with "air travel" to get to this "desert in the City By The Bay extravaganza"! Any "white knight" types out there?? Pretty sure I can find a place to sleep with somepeople I know out there... probably. Believe me when I say my "discretionary funds" are exceptionally low. :bawling: :bawling:
Not sure who "AR2" is??
And yes, please tease us/me with some enticing specs/concepts??
Variac, there needs to be SAND and something to BURN there!
Are you going to put down SAND or not!!!
Gotta have sand if this is a proper burningamp event!
Sy, balanced?
Not sure.
Think somewhat unbalanced...
Not terribly balanced?
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| Variac |
Certainly you aren't suggesting that we only have SAND AMPS!!:bigeyes: :bawling:
I would be too poor to travel to an East Coast event so I cleverly had it here! Others are shipping equipment for us, to try but I'd hate to be responsible for the shipping of a tube amp. |
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| AR2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by bear
Not sure who "AR2" is??
And yes, please tease us/me with some enticing specs/concepts??
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It's me - Ar2
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| AR2 |
This is getting interesting! What makes me happy is that "The Burning Amp" is shaping as the event with international flavor. Here is the "missing" info regarding mysterious ribbons that SY has mentioned in his first post:
We are confirmed that Mr. Aleksandar Radisavljevic of RAAL fame will be our guest and presenter. RAAL ribbons are the ones that were discussed in several treads - most notably here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/show...0392&highlight=
as well as here
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/show...3218&highlight=
RAAL ribbons are valued by several independent and well respected DIYers as "the best tweeters ever". I will be very excited to hear them. I was informed that Mr. Radisavljevic is preparing to offer a limited amount of ribbons with "Burning Amp" discount as well.
As for myself I am planning to bring these guys that I haven't published yet here . These are my machining experiments with DIY Pass powerful 600W inside.
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| AR2 |
And the detail - front shot.
So what better place than "Burning Amp" to hear this guys! |
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In addition to above mentioned, we are expecting to have virtual Choky Zen Mode , with his not virtual and real Pumpkin preamp present. The Burning Amp will be happening on October 20 and 21, so we will have a lots of pumpkins by that time! (It's a Halloween time)
Choky just couldn't pull better timing for his world wide preamp promotion! |
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| AR2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SY
I would suspect that, with all these geeks around, there will be some test equipment. My next task is to find a USB sound card that will work with my laptop so I can do the speaker measurements- generally, I use my desktop for that, but it's a bit impractical to haul down there. |
Would firewire device be possible with your laptop? If not, I will have available an extra laptop that will work with my MAudio FireWire410. Lets speak on Wednesday during our second organizational meeting!!!
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| Zen Mod |
| quote: | Originally posted by AR2
And the detail - front shot.
So what better place than "Burning Amp" to hear this guys! |
those dreky amps deserves own thread ;
finally!!
even if you can't publish schmtc :devilr: |
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| DigitalJunkie |
Shoot, If ZM is gonna be there,I GOTTA go... :smash:
Hope my (t)rusty old Chevy makes it...
I'm gonna need to rob a bank to afford the gas though! :bigeyes:
Hmm.. I'll see what I can do..I probably have a place to stay,not too terribly far away..(wait,how far away is Concord?)
Maybe we can drag Greggeek down too!? :confused:
(Edit: I'm in need of a Six-Flags visit anyways! Love the 'coasters!) |
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| Zen Mod |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigitalJunkie
Shoot, If ZM is gonna be there,I GOTTA go... :smash:
Hope my (t)rusty old Chevy makes it...
I'm gonna need to rob a bank to afford the gas though! :bigeyes:
Hmm.. I'll see what I can do..I probably have a place to stay,not too terribly far away..(wait,how far away is Concord?)
Maybe we can drag Greggeek down too!? :confused:
(Edit: I'm in need of a Six-Flags visit anyways! Love the 'coasters!) |
nope :bawling:
poor old bstrd Choky will be just virtually there ........
Pumpkin will be,in any case .......
hehe
mebbe we can arrange few chats ,even conference ones, if my dreky wifi will have one of better days .........
anyway- you'll just miss almost Paytonian xperience ......... Choky speakin' Engrish .........
I'm doing that even worse than scribin' :clown:
(even if that is hard to imagine ) |
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| DigitalJunkie |
| Doh!! :bawling: |
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| AR2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by lousymusician
What will there be for sources and speakers?
Bill |
I will bring my sources:
Sony CD XA20ES
Denon SACD/DVDA DVD2900
Cal Lab D/A converter with tube output modified with Black Gate caps...
Behringer DCX2496 modified with Lundahl transformers and Xbosoz output (or just with Lundahls in the output) Behringer could serve ether as active crossover or just as DAC
M Audio Fire Wire 410 mobile sound card...
I will have my Apple Power Book and PC laptop for anyone in needs of mp3 sources (but why someone would need that?)
:devilr:
We are planning to have a whole set up for low cost iPod/chipamp stuff that should be attractive for younger crowd - so bring your kids.
We are hoping for analog source as well, but I do not have any info on that yet
Speakers wise I think we will be quite fine, although I already see a lots of speakers with active set up. In addition to Mr. Linkwitz's speakers that Don Naples will be kindly presenting, I will have mine (Lambda, PHL, Aurus Cantum) that will serve as base for RAAL ribbons (we will compare and exchange RAALs with Aurum Cantums)
There are also few horns coming, I will leave one set up for Variac to explain. A friend of mine will be bringing his beautiful TAD +JBL set up...
So far we are really good and if everything goes well there will be a lot to see and to listen. We are just at the beginning and we are still to see the full list of goodies. If anything I would like to see some more analog exhibitors and it seems like we could use some more full range and passive set up speakers.
We do not know yet what Mr. Pass will be presenting, but whatever it is, I am sure, it will be something that The Burning Amp 2007 will be remembered for. |
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| thevoice |
I'm heading off to Burning Man in a few days, so I've had a good chuckle at this, I'd love to join everyone but I'll be long gone by then. I'll probably have just got over the whole thing by October...
Given that I'm in SF itself for five days, this might be a good place to ask if there is anywhere in SF an overseas geek or two should make a pilgrimage to? Electronic surplus stores and the like? The older the electronics the better :devilr: Some others going to burning man, errr, amp, may also like to hear. |
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| SY |
| That stuff has fairly much dried up as far as I can see, though a visit to Halted can be worthwhile for oddball parts. |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by AR2
I will have my Apple Power Book and PC laptop for anyone in needs of mp3 sources (but why someone would need that?)
:devilr: |
Personally, i don't let any compressed music on either of my power books.
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| Variac |
| Actually , don't you use Apple Lossless compression? |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Variac
Actually , don't you use Apple Lossless compression? |
I should have said lossy format... i still need to find a USB or Firewire DAC i can listen to (and afford) to get it out.
dave |
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| janneman |
| quote: | Originally posted by ashok
How about "Im a Burning Amp Hippie " T shirt ?:D
Can be made here easily. |
How about : "Real men don't need class A" ;)
Jan Didden |
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| Variac |
Well Dave, if you come to the show, we should have those Twisted Pear DACs with USB to try. I sure will give it a go with my laptop...
I think the whole setup is $200 with power supply . They are balanced output though...
Ity seems that you can use an iPod to just store data, right?
Could you run a USB DAC off of the iPod, playing lossless files, bypassing the iPod DAC? |
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| Geek |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigitalJunkie
Maybe we can drag Greggeek down too!? :confused: |
Greggeek would love to go, but has no funds :(
(spent all the "petty cash" going to Victoria) |
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| janneman |
I'd really love to come! I could bring my DCX2496 modified with the remote level/ offset control, and if I can finish in time, my new error correction / zero global feedback power amp.
Would love to hear you guys' comments!
Jan Didden |
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| anatech |
Hi Geek,
I'm trying to make it down. Don't know if I can yet, but it would have been good to meet you in person.
-Chris |
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| anatech |
Hey Jan,| quote: | | and if I can finish in time, my new error correction / zero global feedback power amp. |
I'd really love to hear that, can I look under the hood?
-Chris |
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| planet10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Variac
It seems that you can use an iPod to just store data, right?
Could you run a USB DAC off of the iPod, playing lossless files, bypassing the iPod DAC? |
Yes, a lot of my clients consider an iPod to be a "portable USB back-up drive" so that they can claim as a business expense.
As i understand it there are 2 classes of USB devices... lets call them master & slave (i can't remember the official terms). An iPod is a slave & a USB DAC needs to connect to a master.
It would be nice if Apple added a digital out to the iPos and even better if it was IS2 and no SPDIF as on the computers.
dave |
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