| maxlorenz |
Hi :)
I must confess that I love to listen to dead people's music, preferably played by dead people also :D
Anyway, I am a great fun of historical recordings and own a little collection, the few CDs that I manage to find around here, mainly ancient opera recordings, italian and Wagner...
I wanted to share that the low cost seal Naxos has a terribly good Historical collection: both because of the tittles and because of the very excellent restoration engeneers, my dear Mark Ober-Thorn and Ward Marston :cool:
They arrive, on a least intrusive way, to extract the most of the musical experience from these old gems.
http://naxos.com/labels/naxos_historical.htm
As they state, rights for the recordings last for 50 years (regrettably not in USA :bawling: ) so the catalog grows steadily with very interesting offers, some of them should sound even better than versions comercially available ;) critics say...
The legal issue at USA makes that Naxos Historical is seldom available there, to my grief :(
Please note these beauties:
Parsifal, Muck 1928:
http://naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp...ode=8.110049-50
Third Act is awesome.
MUSSORGSKY: Boris Godunov (Christoff, Gedda) (1952)
http://naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp...ode=8.110242-44
You won't find finer singers...
WAGNER, R.: Tristan und Isolde (Furtwängler) (1952) Yes, it is available!
http://naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp...ode=8.110321-24
VERDI: Forza del Destino (La) (Tagliabue, Massini, Caniglia) (1941)
http://naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp...ode=8.110206-07
Ah! This one is outstanding (and the bass is better than my own copy).
I could continue but I don't want to bother you more... :D
Just register and listen to samples. For US$19 we are supposed to be allowed to listen to the whole Naxos catalog, complete tracks! Good use to my new ECdesigns' DI16 DAC ;)
Cheers :cheers:
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| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
I must confess that I love to listen to dead people's music, preferably played by dead people also :D
Anyway, I am a great fun of historical recordings and own a little collection, the few CDs that I manage to find around here, mainly ancient opera recordings, italian and Wagner...
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I confess too. You have a soulmate here. I must also confess I came home with three Naxos reissues of 1930's operas after a tour to Stockholm just a few days ago. :)
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Yes, Naxos has changed from cheap but mostly uninteresting to still cheap but extremely interesting since they started reissuing historical recordings en masse. Now that the 50-year limit makes a lot of 1950-s recordings available and they seem to have started reissuing all the intersting EMI opera recordings from that decade, it is highly interesting indeed.
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I am very sorry for you. How come? Is the south american market served through Naxos USA? What about mail order from Europe or Asia?
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Third Act is awesome.
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A mandatory recording indeed. It is also one of the few recordings where we can hear the original Graal bells of Bayreuth, which were destroyed during the war. Despite the limitations in sound quality, that is a remarkable experience.
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Indeed. I haven't bought the Naxos version, since I already own the recent EMI remastering of it, though. Another mandatory Tristan recording is Elmendorffs from 1928, now also available on Naxos. Don't miss that one (although also there, I haven't heard the Naxos version). And then also Reiners recording of Tristan from 1936, with Flagstad and Melchior is now available on Naxos, so they have a grand slam of all the great historic recordings of this work, I think.
Other Wagner recordings not to be missed and now available on Naxos are
die Walküre Act I & II from 1935/1938 conducted by Walter/Seidler-Winkler. Despite the strange history and the scenes of Act II recorded at two entirely different times and locations and with different people, this is the greatest Ring of them all. Yes, yes, three operas and one act are missing to make a whole Ring, but it is the best anyway. :) (Contrary to the previous EMI CD versions, both acts are complete at least)
Parsifal with Knappertsbusch from Bayreuth 1951. ( I haven't heard the Naxos version of this one either, owning the Teldec version myself).
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| maxlorenz |
Hi soulmate :D
I knew that I was not alone...I searched around here a not a single thread about this, shame, shame...
As an amateur tenor (not a bad one, may I say? :cool: ) my first interest was in voices, preferably tenor voices, but as I grew up and as the quality of the recordings/remastering increased, the quality of the excellent conductors and orchestras became a principal aim.
Recently, I passed through a "chamber music" period that deviated me from my hobby. But as I built a couple of speakers I re-discovered my historic collection by listening monoaural...
Which reminds me, and you may know, coming from a country that gave such nice singers, what happened with the great voices??? :(
I mean, can you listen to the contemporary "helden tenors" like Jerusalem or Hepner? I cannot listen more than 30 seconds...:dead:
They all sound like a cat crying in oestrus period :clown:
specially on those ugly "a" vocals...
The old singers had great voices and great theatrical use of the voice.
I always say that if Pavarotti et al lived on the first part of the XXeth century, they would have had great trouble to find a job at the chorus :devilr:
I think the problem is the lack of good teachers!
About opera:
Tristan und Isolde: I think I have 5 versions. I lack Furtwängler's one :bawling:
My favorite (vocally) is a 1943 performance conducted by the great (at least to me) Robert Heger, and mightly sung by Max Lorenz, Paula Buchner and Jaro Prohaska. This version is a Grammophono2000 remastered/reconstructed one.
Max Lorenz (see my avatar) was as his peak; what a beautiful timbre...needless to say that he is my favorite wagnerian helden-tenor!
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx...hner,+et+al.htm
A pity that there are so few recordings from him. I own a "Meistersinger" with Furtwängler, live performance. Excellent!
I have also excerpts from Tanhäuser, in which role he is unbeatable as everyone agrees, and Furtwängler's "Götterdammerung" from La Scala (1950), in which Lorenz has a slower, heavier vibrato with less brightness on the top end. Furtwängler is very good here. Always an adventure to listen to him...The CDs lacks weight, though. perhaps Naxos will restore them.
Apart that, I have a few excerpts from Rienzy and complete first act from Walküre.
Parsifal: my brother has 1951's Bayreuth's reopening version: Knappertsbush at his slowest :D I bought finally a 1960 or 1961 stereo version from him, with Hans Hotter and G London. Very very good.
Thanks for the tips about purchasing. In my town, I found yesterday only 3 historic operas. I live at 900km from the capital and even there it is a lucky shot to find something. I rely on relatives that travel to the states, for other than Naxos...:bawling:
Italian opera:
My favorite tenor is Aureliano Pertile. I think there are only 3 complete operas out there. I have "Il Trovatore" with Apolo Granforte and "Aida" with the lovelly Dusolina Giannini as Aida and the great Irene Minghini-Cattaneo. Music Samples:
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cach...lient=firefox-a[/url]
The last opera is Carmen on which I have no interest.
Well, my friend, I will love to share any good news about this topic with you, and with everyone interested...
Cheers,
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| maxlorenz |
Hey! I found this label, which is Ward Marston's:
http://www.marstonrecords.com/html/catalogue.htm
True gems, like Conchita Supervia's, Cezar Vezzani's and Hermann Jadlowker's "complete" recordings!
Also a very old Parsifal from Teatro Colon (B.Aires)
A pity that the site is not secure to buy. The purchase option does not suit me. :(
They should sound good on my future horns :cool:
Cheers,
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| Onnosr |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by maxlorenz
[B]Hi :)
I must confess that I love to listen to dead people's music, preferably played by dead people also :D
Anyway, I am a great fun of historical recordings and own a little collection, the few CDs that I manage to find around here, mainly ancient opera recordings, italian and Wagner...
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WAGNER, R.: Tristan und Isolde (Furtwängler) (1952) Yes, it is available!
http://naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp...ode=8.110321-24
Dear Maxlorenz
PSE put me on the list from people who like to listen to dead people's music played by dead people.
About Wagner T und I 1952.
A friend of mine is a complete Wagner freak and owns the lp cassette as he owns also the complete Ring cassete from Sawallisch (philips 1961) and much more (about 1500 records)
About later CD issues
I noticed that the later CD pressings (Deutsche Grammophone EMI, Naxos etc) made from the same ? mastertapes or vinyl's are really infererieur to the vinyl pressings.
So I made myself a cd from vinyl and then with a completely rebuild cd104 I cannot hear any difference between the cd I made and the vinyl one but a hughe difference with the later cd pressings.
To get that more obiective I let peolple listen to it.
They all noticed with no doubt the difference in favour of the CD I made.
I am now recording only analog ( MS stereo to a PR99 revox)
do the MS mixing anlog and then the 44.1 and 16 bits are coming up.
But back to Wagner
That friend of mine is coming over in August with the vinyl one's (and bottles of wine) to let me make cd's from it and that is a day job. (10 LP's two times about 25 minutes)
He also owns a hughe Wagner colletion of 78 recording pre WW2.
I have to find out what exactly he has.
So I let you now the results.
In the meantime send me your email and post address by private mail.
Regards and stay alive !!
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| maxlorenz |
Hi Onnosr :)
Welcome to the club!
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Needless to say that I have "healthy" envy over your friend. As I said before, here it is difficult to get interesting old recordings and importing increases the costs. I must admit that I sin by spending more on DIY stuff that on music :(
I have not played with analog copies yet. I stole from my Dad an old and sturdy Lenco that I will mod/upgrade. I plan to backup his LP collection. I know of someone that copied LPs on DVD format and he claims that the result is better than equivalent CD copy(direct analog to ADC, 48Khz, I imagine). Maybe software (de-clicking/popping and other) is well developed to get even better results. I don't know.
I have some opera records, like an Otello with Ramon Vinay and a Rigoletto with Jan Peerce that can be saved. Also a wonderful "Barbiere" with Luigi Alva.
I read recently that my "Tristan" with Max Lorenz is in fact a Radio concert saved from WWII bombs by don't know what miracle...
About CD v/s LP sound, that's one of the reasons to be here: learn how to make good DAC's ;)
I am trying to stay alive :D but it all depends on The Boss...
Take care.
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| RAndyB |
A kind friend recently made a digital copy of an LP for me (I put out my turntable many years ago). He was able to do MP3 at 320k for me.
First the music: Aaron Copland's settings of Twelve poems of Emily Dickinson, and his orchestral arrangements of Old American songs; recorded 1963, re-issued 1980. (CBS Maestro 61993)
Now the quality of sound: from the vinyl: the whooshing background, clicks and pops of course, over-modulation wrecked by the stylus, the very, very irritating pre-echo. From the MP3: can't tell and would it make any difference?
The reason for the transfer is because Copland was accompanist to the poems, and conductor of the orchestra. Performers make an extra effort when the composer is there in person.
I believe that a CD was issued (probably in 1990 when Copland died) but is no longer available to buy.
Does this fit in with the thread? Dead composer, with the advantage of the composer performing?
Regards,
Andy
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| AMV8 |
Hi Maxlorenze
Great topic.
I like to listen to music of people who are dead or alive. I do not discriminate as long as it is good music well played.
I particularly like the Furtwangler version of Wagners Tristan and I also like the Furtwangler version of the Ring.
Over the last year or so I have bought a number of good quality cd recordings at low price. Some as low as £0.50 per cd ( US$1 ). EMI and HMV have both fallen upon hard times. EMI have been making a lot of low price offers of the best classical artists ( dead or alive! ) in their library and HMV have been reducing these even more. I think some of these offers are still available.
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| maxlorenz |
Hi RAndyB :)
Nice story. Of course it fits. I'm only the thread starter, not the thread owner!
The idea behind it was to let out my frustration about feeling a rara avis , listening to very old, bad sounding recordings, only for the delicious pleasure of hearing wonderful, almost forgotten artists.
Now we have also youtube to listen and see them (I found only one video with Max Lorenz paired with Frida Leider).
Hi AMV8 :)
Thanks for your contribution. I will try to find those bargains.
Do you have favorite singers?
I recommend Max Lorenz singing Tannhäuser (1942, incomplete). Awesome.
Bye,
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| gpapag |
Hi all
Interesting thread.
I also enjoy old recordings, live opera most.
Bad sound is one thing. Great performance is another.
Naxos is offering very good releases of historical recordings
Another label issuing historical recordings is Urania Records (Milano, Italy). You may find a list
here (i think the list is incomplete). Furtwaengler, Toscannini, Mitropoulous..., are all there.
Burning CDs from old vinyl at home provides satisfactory results.
Not all commercial CD releases are well transferred.
Mark Obert Thorn (Naxos) does a wonderful job at CD transfers from 78rpms.
Regards
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| JuanLu |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
Hi soulmate :D
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Italian opera:
My favorite tenor is Aureliano Pertile. I think there are only 3 complete operas out there. I have "Il Trovatore" with Apolo Granforte and "Aida" with the lovelly Dusolina Giannini as Aida and the great Irene Minghini-Cattaneo. Music Samples:
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cach...lient=firefox-a[/url]
The last opera is Carmen on which I have no interest.
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Hmmmm... reading your signature (he, he....)... Carmen is NOT that easy to have no interest, indeed I think is veeery difficult, and sorry to say: great music. You must know that R. Strauss had a copy of Bizet's carmen on his bedside table.
Looking for N. Gedda (I love too Lorenz, ok, ok), maybe with Karajan in a mono registry with Wiener Symph |
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| gpapag |
Metropolitan Opera Radio (through internet) broadcasts historical performances from time to time. You may check here
programming
Regards
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| maxlorenz |
Hello Gpapag and JuanLu,
I am glad to see we are not that few...
Impressive that Sirius netradio! How does it work? Somewhere it says you have to buy it?
I wish it can work on linux
Hey JuanLu, no offense intended...you know we latins always exaggerate to make a point, of course I like Carmen but not one of my favorites... by constrast I can declare that one of my favorite tenors is Alfredo Kraus...I should have said artist, not just tenor...
It is not only a signature, it's a principles statement.
As a birthday present I bought a 1951 version of Mathaus Passion, directed by Fürty :) a bit heterodox but such wonderful singers and such wonderful performance...I was weeping like a child since 3:56 minutes on :bawling:
(I can't find a link for it)
EMI Références is the Label: very good music. From the same label, the best mono recording, soundwise, that I own: Bartok's 2º violin concerto and violin sonatas , Fürty and Menuhin.
Bye,
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| gpapag |
| quote: | | Impressive that Sirius netradio! How does it work? Somewhere it says you have to buy it? |
Hi maxlorenz
You are right. This is something that slipped my attention. I was used to free Saturday-nights broadcasting from MET Radio.here
This year things may be different. I hope that some broadcastings will still be through free MET Radio and not exclusively through Sirius netradio which requires a subscription.
We'll see.
For technical details ref. Sirius, see here (at the middle of the page for Website).
Regards
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| JuanLu |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
.......From the same label, the best mono recording, soundwise, that I own: Bartok's 2º violin concerto and violin sonatas , Fürty and Menuhin.
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Nice recording, but for me the top mono recording I ever heard is the Mercury's mono recording of "Pictures of an exibition" with CSO and Kubelik. I was shocked when I heard it and got both, LP and CD.... in a few seconds you'll forgot it's a mono recoding, or stereo or no matter what's.... a single tube mic hanging on the top of the orchestra!!!!!!!!!!. The only pity is that "Music for strings, perc. & celesta" in teh same cd is maybe one of the most stereophonic pieces ever composed.... :xeye:
Music of XVIII is another matter: I can't hear these 50s and 60s performances after all the revival of new sonorities and concepts of the "period instruments era". Sorry to say, before digital era I'm interested in only a few... Leonhardt, Harnoncourt, Deller.... I love Furty's Wagner, but Bach I don't like, I try (seriously), but I can't.
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I know what you mean. My little brother thinks the same (I don't have troubles wit that if he keeps lending me his CDs).
I like both, specially when I listen to the "period" ones on my big active system which produces a big soundstage and big dynamics. You can see a photo of my speakers on my blog : www (under my signature)
I bought recently a CD from Preiser Records (analog remastering I think) "The famous Oistrakh Trio" series from the 40's: Schubert's 2º piano trio (plus a Chopin trio). Sound is not so good but I like very much the style, warm and relaxed.
Cheers,
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| JuanLu |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
I know what you mean. My little brother thinks the same (I don't have troubles wit that if he keeps lending me his CDs).
I like both, specially when I listen to the "period" ones on my big active system which produces a big soundstage and big dynamics. You can see a photo of my speakers on my blog : www (under my signature)
I bought recently a CD from Preiser Records (analog remastering I think) "The famous Oistrakh Trio" series from the 40's: Schubert's 2º piano trio (plus a Chopin trio). Sound is not so good but I like very much the style, warm and relaxed.
Cheers,
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I love Oistrakh... my all time favorite violin playr.
btw: impressive your horns. I built a pair of Hedlunds with Lowther.... They are right now in my main system, great for acoustic (classical & jazz).. ;)
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| maxlorenz |
Oistrakh and Menuhin, I love them.
Yes horns are, despite pitfalls, truer to music.
Wait and see my future front and back loaded horns with full-range driver. I only have to recover forces and find time...
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| maxlorenz |
Well gentlemen, I finally suscribed to Naxos.com.
For US$19.95 I have "FM quality" access to full tracks of +/-7500CDs for a whole year :cool:
There are better sound quality options, but at much higher price.
Needless to say that I am enjoying now the Naxos Historical Label.
For instance:
http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item...ode=8.110072-73
Thanks to your advices, I just commanded a few operas from Abeillemusique.com (France) from the same Naxos Label ;)
No better spent money!
Cheers,
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| Delphaure |
[ maxlorenz ]I must confess that I love to listen to dead people's music, preferably played by dead people also [/QUOTE]
Don't know why, but I confess too that I have this morbid habit ! Should I consult some doctor... :)
Maxlorenz, as you have access to historical Naxos and you wrote earlier in this thread
...As an amateur tenor (not a bad one, may I say? ) my first interest was in voices, preferably tenor voices,...
did you ever heard tenor Leopold Simoneau ? Because I feel a bit chauvinistic, I can only suggest you to listen him. He was, IMO, one of the greatest "mozart voice", of all times ! (Yeah, nothing less...)
I saw that Historical Naxos has "Cosi fan tutte" with Schwarzkopf, Merriman, Otto, directed by Karajan 1954
(catalogue # 8.111232-34)
I never listened this particular recording. But I can say that almost all Mozart recorded by Simoneau deserves to be listened.
And he was fabulous too, when he was singing with his wife, Pierrette Alarie, a great soprano indeed. DG has published a box, with both singing together. Moving, really !
Sorry for these little "All Canuck" suggestions, but sometimes I'm telling to myself that these two great quebecer singers never had the recognition they deserved, especially for Simoneau.
Best to all and LONG LIFE to this thread !
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| maxlorenz |
Bonjour Delphaure :)
Merci pour ta contribution à la conversation.
Simoneau, je l'ai écouté il y à bien des annés. J' ai oublié l' opéra en question mais il m'a plu, je me souviens... je vais l' écouter ce soir ;)
Seulement US$ 20 pour écouter toute la collection Naxos pour un an! Je trouve que c'est un cadeau.
Je dois commenter que je nái aucun intérêt économique à Naxos :clown:
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Thanks for your contribution to the conversation. I remember Simoneau. I heard him years ago but I forgot the opera in which he sung. I liked him, I recall...I will listen to him this afternoon.
Only US$20 to listen to the whole Naxos collection for a whole year! I think this is a gift!
Disclaim: I have not econmical interest in Naxos :clown:
Please, take a look to these fine videos and tracks of Joseph Schmidt, the giant-little tenor!
http://es.youtube.com/results?searc...=joseph+schmidt
Enjoy!
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| maxlorenz |
Hi all historic recordings fans :)
At last! Almost three months after buying them they finally arrived from la belle France (postal service problem :mad: )
They can be seen here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/maxlorenz24/Operas
My first Boris Godunov: splendid!
Jan Peerce and Leonard Warren in Rigolletto.
Galiano Massini and Maria Caniglia in La Forza...
And finally, Furtwangler's Tristan.
The truth is that all operas sound excellent. Both engineers at Naxos are my heroes. :D
OT: not historical but great bargains; Brilliant Classics are selling complete works of many Artists at ridiculous low prices!
I just bought "The Complete Works of J.S Bach", that is 155 CDs for US$120 (if I recall well).
They do have the Russian Masters Archives (that could be considered historical), 100 CDs for EU80, at abeillemusique.com
I hope it helps,
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| gpapag |
Hi maxlorenz and all
Ref. Brilliant's Historic Russian Archives, I have bought "Emil Gilels plays Beethoven", 6CDs with recordings between 1961 and 1984.
Quality of transfer is good.
On some of them there is "presence" added (it is evident during the audience rehearsals), shifting the tone balance a bit. I would prefer them without it.
My next choise from Russian Archives will be Rostropovich 10 CDs.
Regards
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| maxlorenz |
Hi George,
I like very much Russian artists and music. When funds allow (year of The Rat) I will buy the complete collection:
http://www.abeillemusique.com/produit.php?cle=28367
...because of the big economy (EU 1 per CD). Some days it is even on Sale!
Note that there are 20CDs from Oistrakh, 10CDs from Kremer...etc
Even 7CDs avec Daniel Shafran (unknown to me) about whom the site says he is as good, if not better than, Rostropovich...
I salute you friendly,
M
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| gpapag |
Hi Max and all
I wish you during the year of The Rat to be able to listen to all your favorite Russian artists.
I am also found of them.
20-30 years ago, there was a record shop here in Athens, that was selling russian classic records exclusivelly. Well, most of the artists, were unknown, and the shop owner was smilling with a melancholic smile, adding that there couldn't be otherwise.
The recordings were - suprisingly - top notch.
As for Daniel Shafran, it seems that he was very good
Regards
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| maxlorenz |
Hi guys,
Finally, I received the 100CD box "Legendary Russian Soloists" days ago. PLEASE, don't miss this one! For me it was 88EU (plus shipment :( )
http://picasaweb.google.com/maxlore...398018560148322
All the pieces are "live recordings", maybe some for TV, from around 1947 to around 1984. Maybe that's why the "presence" is there...I like it!
I have only listened to a few of them. Sound is amazingly good (through Ubuntu (thanks Soundcheck) ->USB-> DI16 Ultimate NOS DAC (thanks -ecdesigns-)).
Daniel Shafran is a great musician! He won an Amati Cello from 1630 on competition as a teenager and played with it all his life. The cello is said to be smaller than average, so the sound is brighter-warmer, as a super-viola. :D
I heard him so far on some of Bach's cello solo sonatas and on a Shostakovich's sonata for cello and piano. His Bach is unique.
As I said, Oistrakh has 20CDS: 10 from concertos-orchestral music and 10 for chamber music. The two Shostakovich's violin concertos are worth all the pains...
Ten Kogan's also, from which the Tchaikovsky Violin concerto is superb, if a bit constricted, and the Katchaturian is outstanding.
Many Kremer's, full of life recordings :) . I liked very much his Prokofiev's violin and piano sonata.
Other big surprise is Viktor Tretiakov. His violin playing is refined, unpolluted and full of good taste.
About the piano players, I'll skip them for now...
This is truly a musical treasure. Don't say I didn't warn you!
Cheers,
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| Onnosr |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by maxlorenz
About the piano players, I'll skip them for now...
This is truly a musical treasure. Don't say I didn't warn you!
Hi Maxlorenz
My son Yuri (16, website: Yuri Bakker) has just been accepted at Juilliard college. (he is now in precollege)
This is a nice present for him (and for me and my wife(= violonist)
Tell me asap about the piano players. (Richter etc ??)
Very best regards,
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Hi Onno,
Congratulations!
Piano:
Sviatoslav Richter.
Emil Gilels.
Lazar Berman.
Evgeny Kissin.
But, I would recommend my fellow countryman Claudio Arrau, for the depth of the spiritual/moral insight and the weight of his playing...:cool:
For me he is the best.
Regards,
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But, I would recommend my fellow countryman Claudio Arrau, for the depth of the spiritual/moral insight and the weight of his playing...:cool:
For me he is the best.
Yepperdeyep. !!
Arthur Grumiaux + Claudio Arrau
Beethoven sonatas (Philips)
This is the absolute top (1964 etc !!!!!)
In playing and in recording.
It is my reference !!!
Do you have it ?
If not send me a PE with your exact addres !!
Regards
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| maxlorenz |
I love Grumiaux too, he is an outstanding musician.
YGM.
Now I want to learn how to upload music (with photos, not film, which I don't have) on Youtube from my historical recordings, to share and show the young how opera...etc should be sang/played.
I accept advices ;)
Cheers,
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| maxlorenz |
Please, listen to the only (for now) video on youtube from my singing teacher, Mrs Nora López, from 1961, at her beginnings in Italy, aged 33 (more or less), with the RAI orchestra. The sound is not very good.
Some Italian specialists called her "the last verdian soprano". Though she had a natural lyric voice (she won an opera competition practically without studying; Ramon Vinay was at the jury at the "Teatro Municipal" in Santiago) she later took classes with Maria Caniglia, Gina Cigna and the incomparable Tulio Serafin. I think it was Maria Caniglia who said to her: "OMG, you sing like one of Us "
She is now at her 80's and full of life and power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8wxkpl5U4Y
She told me recently that she owns many original tape recordings from the RAI, Simon Bocanegra, Trovador, Macbeth, Cavalleria, her Norma was fantastic...etc if I recall well...and she would like to produce them to CD...for posterity and for some dirty dollars :D
I'm thinking about buying a tape player ;)
I have to say that she is a tremendous opera teacher. :cool:
I don't think they have better at Julliards nor anywhere...otherwise the quality of singing should be better.
Hope U like it.
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| Onnosr |
| quote: | Originally posted by maxlorenz
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She told me recently that she owns many original tape recordings from the RAI, Simon Bocanegra, Trovador, Macbeth, Cavalleria, her Norma was fantastic...etc if I recall well...and she would like to produce them to CD...for posterity and for some dirty dollars :D
I'm thinking about buying a tape player ;)
Hope U like it.
M [/B] |
I will do it if you do not do it !!
I have a professional Studer tape machine
(and a professional dolby SR and A connected to it)
There is nothing but analog !!
But I have a very nice homebuild not to beat AD converter.
grtz
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| maxlorenz |
| quote: | I have a professional Studer tape machine
(and a professional dolby SR and A connected to it)
There is nothing but analog !! |
Wow!
Do you have also a record company?? :D
I could send you the tapes and do business together :D :clown:
The punch and "stamina" of her voice can be heard slightly on that bad recording. Having sung with her in classes I can say that her voice was like a warm substance of incredible power...
More recognizable is the "Verdian" intense style...now in way of extinction...
Best regards,
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| maxlorenz |
Dear all,
I learnt finally how to post at Youtube.
I uploaded almost all my Tannhäuser with Max Lorenz (save Dich Teure Halle):
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=LAz8A...feature=related
There are seven parts.
I think it is a good way to share our beloved musical archives :cool:
Enjoy,
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