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justpoor
the empty holes here...... Will be buying a couple plate amps. Also what tweeters for top end helper. Thanks.
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mashaffer
Seems like we would need to know the volume of the bottom chamber and a little something about the other drivers there.

mike
justpoor
Dimension is 32"x16"x11" - Cabinets are sealed but I can make it ported by cutting a hole rather easily. I am open for anything (inexpensive is even better.) The fullrange drivers are no name vintage alnico Japanese speakers.
djn
are you putting subs in those lower cabs? What is the range of the top drivers and are they right for OB? I like the looks. Cheers.
Scottmoose
Well, this is what you'd get out of an Eminence Beta 12A in that box, with a 4in diameter, 3in long port installed, with it's centre 3in up from the internal base. The Eminence units are very good indeed IMO -loads of excursion, bomb-proof build, and exceptionally well engineered. Not particularly expensive either. Should be pretty easy to XO to the upper dipole unit as they run up a fair way pretty smoothly, and their lower roll-off should match to room-gain nicely. Given their near 100db sensitivity 1w/1m, the plate amps are going to be idling.

As for tweeters, try the Fostex FT17H horn loaded tweeter. Nice unit. Again, not very expensive & the sensitivity is pretty high at nearly 100db 1w / 1m. Better to have a high sensitivity than a low -it's easier to cut things than to boost them.
justpoor
DJN, the full range are good for around 60hz ~2000. They sound quite nice in OB.

Hey Scott, since the Eminence Beta 12A are so efficient, perhaps I can just put a large choke in them and cross them at ... says 200hz and run them parallel with the fullrangers without plate amp. What do you think.
Scottmoose
That's what I'd probably do. Unless you're thinking about going active, I can't see much point in using a plate amp in this case, as we're looking at near 100db efficiency levels for that section.
mashaffer
Though designed for a horn sub I was shocked at how well the Lab12 Generation II from parts express simmed. A little pricey at 175ish dollars but if it actually performed this well...

mike
mashaffer
A lot cheaper (75ish dollars) but looks kind of nice. Selenium 12PWS5-SLF.


mike
Scottmoose
Very impressive. I'd want to roll the FR of the LAB12 off though (which is what I did for the Eminence) or the room is going to grab that LF and run with glee. ;)
Geoff H
Hi Justpoor, are there any numbers on the back of the drivers? I am surprised they only go to 2 Khz. The cones may be soggy, could be tweaked a bit.

Geoff
justpoor
Geoff, actually they probably went up to 5~6000 - it was typo.

Scott, How do I tame the 12's sub down to match the fullrange. My fullrange are only 93~94db where the emminence are 98. Thnx.
Scottmoose
Add a resistor or LPAD in series with the (bass) driver. Try a 4ohm to start out with & adjust the value to match / taste.

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