After living with heavily modified/rebuilt/aging Infinity RS II's for 25 years, I stumbled upon some BG RD75 planars at 1/2 price shipped to my door..🙂 soooo... being an inveterate builder/tinkerer, I decided to retire the Infinity's to the home theatre..... and build some dipoles based on the RD75's , obviously influenced by the RSII design (and the Genesis 201 array box)
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BG-75 / ATC planar dipole construction(cont.)
After doing extensive online research, I decided to cross over the BG's at 600 Hz to avoid stretching their capabilities, and augment the high end with a technics EAS10th-400 supertweeter and 2 peerless domes, one firing rearward w/ reverse polarity.
Since I was running the BG's from 600 Hz up, I needed midbass drivers to fill in from the sub (seen in the corner) I'd built previously ( from 50 Hz - 600 Hz)...
The best drivers i found (2 years ago) were 6 1/2" Peerless HDS
as they had a very smooth response up to ~2K and fairly robust power handling.
I chose to build the cabinets from local 1" cherry boards, with 45 degree wings to add baffle width control for the dipole roll-off
After doing extensive online research, I decided to cross over the BG's at 600 Hz to avoid stretching their capabilities, and augment the high end with a technics EAS10th-400 supertweeter and 2 peerless domes, one firing rearward w/ reverse polarity.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Since I was running the BG's from 600 Hz up, I needed midbass drivers to fill in from the sub (seen in the corner) I'd built previously ( from 50 Hz - 600 Hz)...
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
The best drivers i found (2 years ago) were 6 1/2" Peerless HDS
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
as they had a very smooth response up to ~2K and fairly robust power handling.
I chose to build the cabinets from local 1" cherry boards, with 45 degree wings to add baffle width control for the dipole roll-off
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BG-75 / ATC planar dipole construction(cont.)
As you can see above, I first mounted the dome tweeters facing forward around the supertweeter, but the vertical lobing was intrusive, so I reversed the upper's position (and wiring polarity) and that problem went away.
The domes and the mid-woofers were higher sensitivity than the RD-75's (by at least 3 dB) so I connected them in series rather than parallel, which helped immensely (and provided an easier load to the amp.
Here are some more construction pics...
more to come
As you can see above, I first mounted the dome tweeters facing forward around the supertweeter, but the vertical lobing was intrusive, so I reversed the upper's position (and wiring polarity) and that problem went away.
The domes and the mid-woofers were higher sensitivity than the RD-75's (by at least 3 dB) so I connected them in series rather than parallel, which helped immensely (and provided an easier load to the amp.
Here are some more construction pics...
more to come
Fantastic job, the room your speakers are in looks beautiful too with all the huge windows looking out on to nature. I'd expect its pretty peaceful listening to music in that environment.
Do I see a swimming pool too? Git 😀
Once again congrats.
Do I see a swimming pool too? Git 😀
Once again congrats.
BG-75 / ATC planar dipole construction(cont.)
Thanks, Shin.. your projects (prior & current) look pretty cool.
yup it's a pool, but the liner split after 14 years and needs to be replaced
.. another project..😱
Some further construction details & pics...
this was how I cut holes b4 the jasper jig joined my tool box...🙄
and here's the (almost) completed mid-woofer mdf box w/bracing
The main baffle is 1" cherry, which I purchased down the road from a guy who cuts boards from trees and sells to local woodworkers. I planed them from ~1 1/4" rough dimensions; each baffle is 4 pieces joined w/ biscuits and gorilla glue.
Since I couldn't wait to see how they sounded, here's a test setup b4 some finishing...
Thanks, Shin.. your projects (prior & current) look pretty cool.
yup it's a pool, but the liner split after 14 years and needs to be replaced
.. another project..😱 Some further construction details & pics...
this was how I cut holes b4 the jasper jig joined my tool box...🙄
and here's the (almost) completed mid-woofer mdf box w/bracing
The main baffle is 1" cherry, which I purchased down the road from a guy who cuts boards from trees and sells to local woodworkers. I planed them from ~1 1/4" rough dimensions; each baffle is 4 pieces joined w/ biscuits and gorilla glue.
Since I couldn't wait to see how they sounded, here's a test setup b4 some finishing...
Did you build these a long time ago? Only, I'm sure I have seen that last picture a fair while ago.
Tenson said:
I posted a few pics here and there since starting them 2/2005, but v-bro and ruddyama asked me to start a thread with construction details...
plus, they keep evolvimg....😉
you probably remember this pic... note the absence of the 25" ribbon/planars.. and the second sono-subwoofer..
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
John L.
neoplanar 25" upgrade
One reason I added the neoplanar was I got a pair for $175 each, they had pretty good specs, and , rather than adding 2 more midwoofers on the baffle (which I didn't need) I wanted more power handling for the midrange & upper freqs. (150wrms)
polar response (monopole)
neoplanar freq. response (mfg. info)
for comparison (maybe?) here's a high end pure ribbon spec.
RAAL 70-10
and here's the sheet for the RD75's... (with notch filter@ 5Khz)
all these are mfgs. representations, so the normal caveats apply.
However, all I can say is in this setup, the neoplanar/RD75 combo floats a rock solid image throughout the room; it's as if each instrument being played has its own speaker custom built for it... no smearing or interference between the various sounds. Sounds good from low levels up to, maybe, 106dB or so (I can't listen much louder anymore)
xover setup...
John L.
One reason I added the neoplanar was I got a pair for $175 each, they had pretty good specs, and , rather than adding 2 more midwoofers on the baffle (which I didn't need) I wanted more power handling for the midrange & upper freqs. (150wrms)
polar response (monopole)
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
neoplanar freq. response (mfg. info)
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
for comparison (maybe?) here's a high end pure ribbon spec.
RAAL 70-10
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
and here's the sheet for the RD75's... (with notch filter@ 5Khz)
all these are mfgs. representations, so the normal caveats apply.
However, all I can say is in this setup, the neoplanar/RD75 combo floats a rock solid image throughout the room; it's as if each instrument being played has its own speaker custom built for it... no smearing or interference between the various sounds. Sounds good from low levels up to, maybe, 106dB or so (I can't listen much louder anymore)
xover setup...
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
John L.
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