Hi, so I don't have to mangle the lovely gold cover that hides/covers them, does anyone one know what and how many, and in what configuation are the DA convertors underneath?
As I wish to try a different discrete I/V circuit and output circuit board in place of the Sledgehammer board they came with.
Cheers George
As I wish to try a different discrete I/V circuit and output circuit board in place of the Sledgehammer board they came with.
Cheers George
Right covers are off, thanks to the cranky old fart from the other place, they are PCM56PK and the opamps are OPA606 mine may have the PCM61PK in as it is a later model, and Wadia rebadged them and the OPA's. This circuit looks as thou they try get a balanced output from a single ended I out from the 4 xDac's how do you guys see this?
Sorry the three yellows and the black go to the Sledgehammer output board which has 2 x HA-5002 opamps per channel, that's impossible to trace as it's multi layered board, it has balanced and single ended outputs
Cheers George
Sorry the three yellows and the black go to the Sledgehammer output board which has 2 x HA-5002 opamps per channel, that's impossible to trace as it's multi layered board, it has balanced and single ended outputs
Cheers George
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This is one of the Transimpedance amps I was thinking of trying out. I out (pin 13) of all 4 dacs straight to the input has it's own dc servo is direct coupled good balanced or single ended output stage. Any comments?
Cheers George
Cheers George
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Hi,
Before you replace I/V stage, you might change decoupling capacitors. It seems to be Z5U, the worst capacitors that exist !
How (Not) to Decouple High-Speed Operational Amplifiers
Eric
Before you replace I/V stage, you might change decoupling capacitors. It seems to be Z5U, the worst capacitors that exist !
How (Not) to Decouple High-Speed Operational Amplifiers
Eric
Hi,
I have always cosidered wadia as state of the art DAC. It sounds!
But also I have thinked I/V stage and output stage are the weak point.
Have you considered a passive I/V stage or transformer? 😀
Cheers,
Paolo
I have always cosidered wadia as state of the art DAC. It sounds!
But also I have thinked I/V stage and output stage are the weak point.
Have you considered a passive I/V stage or transformer? 😀
Cheers,
Paolo
Hi Paolo,
Yes, I think too, Wadia is state of the art: nice bass level and very high and neutral definition. I could not change any stage because it is not mine.🙄
You can obtain more by managing vibrations.
Managing vibrations
Eric
inertial said:Hi,
I have always cosidered wadia as state of the art DAC. It sounds!
But also I have thinked I/V stage and output stage are the weak point.
Have you considered a passive I/V stage or transformer? 😀
Cheers,
Paolo
Yes, I think too, Wadia is state of the art: nice bass level and very high and neutral definition. I could not change any stage because it is not mine.🙄
You can obtain more by managing vibrations.
Managing vibrations
Eric
Hi Eric,
You smash an open door with me ....my nickname is INERTIAL 😀
My "uncle" is teacher of vibrational mechanics, so I have learned a bit..
I have fast looked at your link, I agree vibrations is always bad, but I suggest you to be more radical : isolate every audio components emploing a subsonical decoupliing at 2-4 Hz with minimum damping.
You can use elastic rubber, air spring or at least steel spring.
The model to refer is the simple damped harmonic oscillator where the DAC is the mass and K is obviously the spring. R is the damping.
You can easy obtain a combined FR ( frequency of vibration) of about 2-4 Hz. This work the best.
Cheers,
Paolo
You smash an open door with me ....my nickname is INERTIAL 😀
My "uncle" is teacher of vibrational mechanics, so I have learned a bit..
I have fast looked at your link, I agree vibrations is always bad, but I suggest you to be more radical : isolate every audio components emploing a subsonical decoupliing at 2-4 Hz with minimum damping.
You can use elastic rubber, air spring or at least steel spring.
The model to refer is the simple damped harmonic oscillator where the DAC is the mass and K is obviously the spring. R is the damping.
You can easy obtain a combined FR ( frequency of vibration) of about 2-4 Hz. This work the best.
Cheers,
Paolo
Hi Eric
Interesting results. Why not start a new thread? There is a great danger of hijacking George's thread, which is also very interesting.
Interesting results. Why not start a new thread? There is a great danger of hijacking George's thread, which is also very interesting.
If I understand your model, you isolate device from vibrations by spring (soft) material?inertial said:...The model to refer is the simple damped harmonic oscillator where the DAC is the mass and K is obviously the spring. R is the damping...
There is three sources of vibrations
- coming from floor,
- aerial, coming from speaker,
- internal, coming from transformer.
Spring (soft) material isolate only vibrations coming from floor and is unable to flow the others ! If DAC is the only mass, it is not enough to flows vibrations.
Are you right?
Eric
Hi analog_sa,
OK for a new thread, in 'Everything Else' forum? Do you think many people read this forum?
Eric
analog_sa said:Interesting results. Why not start a new thread? There is a great danger of hijacking George's thread, which is also very interesting.
OK for a new thread, in 'Everything Else' forum? Do you think many people read this forum?
Eric
Eric ,
despite the origin of vibrations, rational mechanics says " a body souspended out (below) of band can't vibrate in band "
Do you agree?
Cheers,
Paolo
P.S.: I have tried to speak about this in various occasions in the loudspeaker section. An interesting thread was " purpose of speaker spikes", see mine latest post in last two pages,if you are interested. Zero result, only "noise". Unfortunately.
I think NO ONE is real intersted in vibrations, very hostile argument that requires basics of rational mechanics to start and much more
People laughing about vibrations in electronics, so...
Cheers,
Paolo
despite the origin of vibrations, rational mechanics says " a body souspended out (below) of band can't vibrate in band "
Do you agree?
Cheers,
Paolo
P.S.: I have tried to speak about this in various occasions in the loudspeaker section. An interesting thread was " purpose of speaker spikes", see mine latest post in last two pages,if you are interested. Zero result, only "noise". Unfortunately.
I think NO ONE is real intersted in vibrations, very hostile argument that requires basics of rational mechanics to start and much more

People laughing about vibrations in electronics, so...

Cheers,
Paolo
Hi
I tryed 100hm passive Riv per DAC chip...
and then amplify to about 2V with phase shift 180...
Sound was good
Dacs opperated without overheating an for very long time...
*
Also I found (but that is subjective...) that OP inside,
is not bad at all.
Maube little rough...
*
I tryed 100hm passive Riv per DAC chip...
and then amplify to about 2V with phase shift 180...
Sound was good
Dacs opperated without overheating an for very long time...
*
Also I found (but that is subjective...) that OP inside,
is not bad at all.
Maube little rough...
*
Zoran said:Hi
I tryed 100hm passive Riv per DAC chip...
and then amplify to about 2V with phase shift 180...
Sound was good
Dacs opperated without overheating an for very long time...
*
Also I found (but that is subjective...) that OP inside,
is not bad at all.
Maube little rough...
*
Was this with the same Wadia unit I have Zoran?
Cheers george
no,
that was simple NOS set up,
just to feel the sound from pcm56...
even without adj. msb with trim pot sound was good...
that was simple NOS set up,
just to feel the sound from pcm56...
even without adj. msb with trim pot sound was good...
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