Tricks for dealing with widely-spaced speakers? (nearfield)

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I'm trying to put together a little sound system for my computer desk, since I spend a large majority of the day there.

One of the big issues I see is speaker placement, my screens take up about 52" horizontally, meaning the speakers will need to be further beyond that. So sitting a normal 24" or so back from the screen yields a very wide 100 degree angle to the speakers and the soundstage seems to really get stretched apart into oblivion. I can't move backwards too far or I lose functionality of the screens. I'd prefer not to split the two screens up if I don't have to but I fear that may be the only way.

I'm not sure if there's anything I can really do to help, either hardware tweaks or software processing tools, I've got Equalizer APO on the computer that runs this setup.

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just looking at your drawing can you slide the monitor back so that you wind up with a equilateral triangle?
Toe the speakers in so that they aim at your shoulders and things ought to snap into focus for you. Best regards Moray James.

The monitors are best viewed perpendicular to their surfaces, so his present setup is better for video. I'd suggest having the speakers in front of the monitors.
If the screen is partially blocked by them (probably so), then raise the monitors up, on books, etc. Some monitors have a built-in height adjustment.
If the screens are a little too high for comfort then, he may be able to raise the chair's seat to match.
 
Wide ratio will just sound more headphony, but it will still work. Especially when you are distracted by intense video. I think the divider line between the screens will be more distracting than the sound imaging if you are gaming or watching videos. The center sonic imaging may suffer with wide speakers, but using single drivers in spherical enclosure with low distortion electronics will help maintain good center image even with wide speakers. Any added phase distortion from steep crossovers, box diffraction, etc, will reduce the solidity of the center image.

A center speaker would be ideal, you could build an analog processor that will put only the center channel info into a center speaker placed under the monitors. I have heard of such a beast but I don't know what it entails. Something like Ampzilla Trinaural Processor. Maybe a dolby surround processor would work, or maybe JRiver DSP can create a center channel from stereo.
 
just looking at your drawing can you slide the monitor back so that you wind up with a equilateral triangle? Toe the speakers in so that they aim at your shoulders and things ought to snap into focus for you. Best regards Moray James.

The monitors are best viewed perpendicular to their surfaces, so his present setup is better for video. I'd suggest having the speakers in front of the monitors.

Indeed, viewing angle is a factor in the way these monitors are setup. Also they're pretty large screens, 30" diagonal, so putting them flat inline (and forming a more traditional equilateral triangle) is almost too wide across IMO.

Putting the speakers in front of the monitors could be worth a try, although I would probably have to turn the speakers sideways as they're 9.5" tall Micca MB42X's, so that would put the tweeters almost on the desktop surface. Not sure how that would sound..

Wide ratio will just sound more headphony, but it will still work. Especially when you are distracted by intense video. I think the divider line between the screens will be more distracting than the sound imaging if you are gaming or watching videos. The center sonic imaging may suffer with wide speakers, but using single drivers in spherical enclosure with low distortion electronics will help maintain good center image even with wide speakers. Any added phase distortion from steep crossovers, box diffraction, etc, will reduce the solidity of the center image.

Good description of the sound, it does sound a bit like headphones. I'm still not sure how distracting it would be to split up the screens, I mostly do CAD work and some video editing, but nothing that really stretches from one screen to the next. For the most part it's workspace on the primary screen and tool pallets and email and media player on the other, so a 6" gap might be alright. And I don't have any games, well except solitaire.

A center speaker would be ideal, you could build an analog processor that will put only the center channel info into a center speaker placed under the monitors. I have heard of such a beast but I don't know what it entails. Something like Ampzilla Trinaural Processor. Maybe a dolby surround processor would work, or maybe JRiver DSP can create a center channel from stereo.

That is quite the interesting subject matter, I've just done a bit of searching on the Ampzilla Trinaural device and I think I have more questions than I started with. They certainly make some lofty claims, I wonder why it hasn't caught on more. The industry would even get to sell us 33% more speakers! 🙄
 
Putting the speakers in front of the monitors could be worth a try, although I would probably have to turn the speakers sideways as they're
9.5" tall Micca MB42X's, so that would put the tweeters almost on the desktop surface. Not sure how that would sound..

That's how I run my video system, with the speakers on their sides below the screen, with the tweeters toward the outsides. It works pretty well.
You might want to angle them upward with a shim under the front edges, if listening at such a close distance.
 
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