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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Argentina
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Hi!!!
what is the diference between normal transformers and toroidal trasnformers? is there any advantage? I'm asking this because in Argentina i cant find any place to buy a 24+24 toroidal. I can only find 12V toroidals for 12V lamps. maybe i can use 4x12v toroidal to make 2x24v. is that worth? or just buy an old "EI" transformer? |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Doncaster England
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From what I gather a toroidal transformer emitts much less flux which affects the audio.
Plus I think the eddy current is also lower. |
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Smaller magnetic field (leakage), better VA and regulation for same size.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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EI pluses- lower bandwith, far more tolerance for DC offset. One way to deal with the flux is just have it a couple feet from the amp.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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toroidal is really used because they are the cheapest per VA due to more efficient use of materials + investment in auto-winding
EI give better isolation from the line due to lower pri-sec parasitic C, they do have higher leakage flux, but is easily "short circuited" by cheap iron such as tin can stock or even galvanized sheet - some high end manufacturers put EI pwr xfmrs in drawn cylindrical cans to to get superior performance while avoiding questions from those brainwashed by toroidal="hi tech" hype |
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Palatiw, Pasig City
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imho, you miss nothing if you just used EI's...
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kuala Lumpur
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EIs have lower inrush
Badly made EIs tend to vibrate and buzz audibly |
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Palatiw, Pasig City
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Argentina
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thanks to all!!
I only hope that my next EI trans. fit into my case. I will make 4xLM3886 chip amp + 1 dual LM3886(bridged). I dont know how much VA's should be the trans. can you help me?70W x 4 + 100W = 380W of audio output 500va? 600va?
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A good rule of thumb is VA = 2 x output RMS
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