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Danko 31st August 2005 06:51 PM

Soft start with TL431 - HOW?
 
Hi, again! :-)


Another TL431 question ....
I would like to make my PSU soft-start. I was looking at the TL431 datasheet, to figure out how can I make this IC to "do" soft start.

Will that work, if I put a capacitor and a resistor paralell with the resistor, which is between the cathode, and the "reference" pin? Or this will caouse problems in the feedback loop? If I put a relay series with the R-C, and that relay "disconnects" that R-C after a short time, will this work?

BTW, I found a schematic in TL431's datasheet, on figure 27, but I don't think that will be good for me. That's only "delay", not soft-start.

Thanks in advance!

peranders 31st August 2005 08:34 PM

May I ask why you want a soft start? It's very seldom the best solution to have a slowly rising supply voltage. It's better to mute the output in some way.

N-Channel 31st August 2005 09:02 PM

SS for what?
 
SoftStart for what? A linear or switcher? :confused:

If you're doing a switcher most controller chips (SG3525, SG1846, MC33025, etc.) have dedicated SoftStart pins on them. SoftStart can be added to the TL494 very easily. I have never heard of SS'ing the TL431. :scratch:

If you're doing a switcher, is your topology Input/Output ground-isolated, or non-isolated? :D

Steve

Eva 31st August 2005 09:11 PM

You should implement soft-start in the control IC by means of duty cycle limiting (clamping error amplifier output to a slow voltage ramp).

Danko 1st September 2005 01:37 PM

I would like to make a SMPS, with output voltage 460V DC, to a tube amplifier. The slowly increasing B+ does not shorten the tube's life, reduces inrush current.


Eva: Thanks, I will dig up the UCC2808's datasheet, to figure out how to make a soft-start.

N-Channel: I have used TL494, and with that IC I could easily make a soft-start, but this UCC2808 isn't so simple. It's a 8pin packaged device. GND, OUT_A OUT_B VCC FEEDBACK Current_Sense RC COMP <-= theese are the only pins it has.

Eva 1st September 2005 02:24 PM

UCC2808 already has a built-in soft-start circuit, but it may be faster than desirable.

Anyway, you can just clamp COMP voltage to a low value during the first few seconds of operation, this will limit start-up peak current and provide a smooth output voltage ramp.

Danko 1st September 2005 03:09 PM

Eva: Yes, the UCC2808 already has a soft-start function, but lasts only for a few milliseconds. I would prefer it to be about 10 sec long.

But for now, I have to "slow down" my electronics-stuffs, becouse on september 5th the school will begin. :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

In my lodge, i'm afraid, I cant solder anything :bawling:


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