SSLV1.1 builds & fairytales - Page 99

acidbrain · 8th February 2012, 03:05 PM

LOL, later on I can give the results between my XONO powered bij the SSLV1.1 vs DCB1 with remote sense.

Salas · 8th February 2012, 03:14 PM

DCB1's PSU part is closer to V1.0

acidbrain · 8th February 2012, 03:17 PM

I know but we're audiophiles, if there's difference we have to record it.

merlin el mago · 8th February 2012, 03:26 PM

Will be good to know if george hear the same differences.

1.2R psu with Pana THA 15.000uF 63V 105ºC (two tx + two psu + two regs)
1.1 psu with Nippon Chemi-Con 10.000uF 63V 85ºC (one tx + one psu + one reg)

vgeorge · 8th February 2012, 04:16 PM

Felipe,

I assume that you mean about the low voltage one.
I initially built a V1.2 - dual shunts, dual r-core trans, CLC, panasonic 4700 and mundorf 22000 caps, for my simplistic phono -and then changed to 1.1. I tried with 15031 initially, but changed to mosfet, which I liked better. Even from the 1.2 I had, as far as I remember.
Just out of curiosity, today I scoped with a dummy load V1.2 and was not so clean up high as 1.1. My layout should be to blame, as it was not the best. Although I intend to rebuild it, even as an exercise for the layout.
1.1 is so much easier to do and so good sounding, that is the best solution for most applications.

merlin el mago · 8th February 2012, 09:27 PM

George,

Interesting that V1.2 not so clean in highs, so your hear better V1.1 than V1.2 like me? your V1.1 uses MKP or lytic for Vref?

nedi · 8th February 2012, 10:38 PM

Has anyone tried to use Blackgate 220uF NX for Vref. (SSLV BiB1.1)? I want to build reg. for Va +/- 5V AD1865 Dac.

Thanks

merlin el mago · 9th February 2012, 08:30 AM

BG is the best lytic cap but the problem with BG is all are old manufacturated so perfomance isn't the same if is on production. Pana FM bypassed with FT3 Russian teflon film and aluminium foil can be a very good and cheap alternative.

vgeorge · 9th February 2012, 08:58 AM

I used Elna silmic II 220uF for Vref and 2.2 MKP tin foil at the output.
I did not make a direct comparison, but as far as I remember the differences were small.

merlin el mago · 9th February 2012, 09:55 AM

I used Pana FM 220uF for Vref and 10uF MKP Arcotronics at the output but I hear more harmonics/resolution using 10uF MKP Arcotronics for Vref and 10uF MKP Arcotronics at the output, the difference isn't small.

8th February 2012, 04:16 PM	#985
vgeorge diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: poros island	Felipe, I assume that you mean about the low voltage one. I initially built a V1.2 - dual shunts, dual r-core trans, CLC, panasonic 4700 and mundorf 22000 caps, for my simplistic phono -and then changed to 1.1. I tried with 15031 initially, but changed to mosfet, which I liked better. Even from the 1.2 I had, as far as I remember. Just out of curiosity, today I scoped with a dummy load V1.2 and was not so clean up high as 1.1. My layout should be to blame, as it was not the best. Although I intend to rebuild it, even as an exercise for the layout. 1.1 is so much easier to do and so good sounding, that is the best solution for most applications. __________________ "Without deviations from the norm, progress is not possible" - Frank Zappa

9th February 2012, 08:58 AM	#989
vgeorge diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: poros island	I used Elna silmic II 220uF for Vref and 2.2 MKP tin foil at the output. I did not make a direct comparison, but as far as I remember the differences were small. __________________ "Without deviations from the norm, progress is not possible" - Frank Zappa

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8th February 2012, 03:05 PM	#981
acidbrain diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2008	LOL, later on I can give the results between my XONO powered bij the SSLV1.1 vs DCB1 with remote sense.

8th February 2012, 03:14 PM	#982
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	DCB1's PSU part is closer to V1.0

8th February 2012, 03:17 PM	#983
acidbrain diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2008	I know but we're audiophiles, if there's difference we have to record it.

8th February 2012, 03:26 PM	#984
merlin el mago diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Catalonia new Europe state	Will be good to know if george hear the same differences. 1.2R psu with Pana THA 15.000uF 63V 105ºC (two tx + two psu + two regs) 1.1 psu with Nippon Chemi-Con 10.000uF 63V 85ºC (one tx + one psu + one reg)

8th February 2012, 09:27 PM	#986
merlin el mago diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Catalonia new Europe state	George, Interesting that V1.2 not so clean in highs, so your hear better V1.1 than V1.2 like me? your V1.1 uses MKP or lytic for Vref?

8th February 2012, 10:38 PM	#987
nedi diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Has anyone tried to use Blackgate 220uF NX for Vref. (SSLV BiB1.1)? I want to build reg. for Va +/- 5V AD1865 Dac. Thanks

9th February 2012, 08:30 AM	#988
merlin el mago diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Catalonia new Europe state	BG is the best lytic cap but the problem with BG is all are old manufacturated so perfomance isn't the same if is on production. Pana FM bypassed with FT3 Russian teflon film and aluminium foil can be a very good and cheap alternative.

9th February 2012, 09:55 AM	#990
merlin el mago diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Catalonia new Europe state	I used Pana FM 220uF for Vref and 10uF MKP Arcotronics at the output but I hear more harmonics/resolution using 10uF MKP Arcotronics for Vref and 10uF MKP Arcotronics at the output, the difference isn't small.