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manamanam · 2nd August 2011, 07:09 PM

Just checking its limits in case that the I/V draws more current.
On the manual it says that it draws a constant current of 350mA.
So i will finalize settings when i measure the real thing.
100mA on top of consumption is enough?

Salas · 2nd August 2011, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mravinsky

If you are speaking about my measurements, they were with 4.7R resistors, because the departure point was about 2V, nothing like 1.49 or 1.1V. (In fact I have ordered lower values to test, but I suspect that it could be difficult to arrive to 400-450mA and 600-625mA for buffalo+tridents almost impossible with this configuration)
I´ve tested with theoretically yellow 2.4V Leds, but the reading for this strings (3 Leds) is also 5.7V, I don´t know why.

Try with mixing one blue Led and I will try too so to see if it has any real negative impact on noise or not.

Salas · 2nd August 2011, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manamanam

Just checking its limits in case that the I/V draws more current.
On the manual it says that it draws a constant current of 350mA.
So i will finalize settings when i measure the real thing.
100mA on top of consumption is enough?

I don't know about buffalo to expertly tell you. You will see in practice.
I am looking on some noise measurements, and mixing one 3V9 0.5W Zener or a blue Led with the other two, looks safe by the way. Better the blue, the Zener will need reverse orientation and we don't know if it will be that stable without strong current.

qusp · 2nd August 2011, 07:29 PM

I have used blue in dcb1 and mixed in SSV1 with no negative impact on noise, audible noise anyway

qusp · 07:37 PM

btw the actual current draw for the analogue supplies of the sabre is only 100ma total for 5 supplies (mixed 3v3 and 1v2, so its not 330mW), including a 100mhz XO. thats some pretty serious overhead on the tridents?

Salas · 2nd August 2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qusp

I have used blue in dcb1 and mixed in SSV1 with no negative impact on noise, audible noise anyway

Thanks for the input. 3xblue can be too much voltage though, I would mix just one firstly.

mravinsky · 3rd August 2011, 10:20 PM

I haven´t found blue leds (smaller than 5mm) in my city. So, I must wait.
I can achieve 433mA in my neg 15v regulator using a 1R1 resistor.

Salas · 4th August 2011, 02:02 AM

That should be enough. Measure the actual current draw of the load on the negative rail. Don't push the idle dissipation if it suffices for 100mA+ margin.

mravinsky · 4th August 2011, 02:47 PM

To Salas and people concerned in Buffalo ii+ Tridents and Legato. I´ve never measured the current draw, because my first exerience with Trident was the my PS then,(Placid 350mA) gave not enough current to lite the leds in local AVCC and Tridents. Then I gave as good what I read in forums: idle current for Buffalo+tridents 450-475mA and 300 mA for Legato.
Today I have measured the idle current with the following results:
Buffalo + Tridents: 410mA
Legato 2 and 3.1 (without Buffers):Between 190 and 200 mA.
So that´s the departure point (for me)

Salas · 4th August 2011, 04:58 PM

So it draws 200mA per rail for the +/-15V rails. Setting the 15V regs CCSs at 350mA is royal.

2nd August 2011, 07:34 PM	#125
qusp is choosing a less facetious title... diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia	btw the actual current draw for the analogue supplies of the sabre is only 100ma total for 5 supplies (mixed 3v3 and 1v2, so its not 330mW), including a 100mhz XO. thats some pretty serious overhead on the tridents? Last edited by qusp; 2nd August 2011 at 07:37 PM.

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2nd August 2011, 07:09 PM	#121
manamanam diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Athens	Just checking its limits in case that the I/V draws more current. On the manual it says that it draws a constant current of 350mA. So i will finalize settings when i measure the real thing. 100mA on top of consumption is enough?

2nd August 2011, 07:29 PM	#124
qusp is choosing a less facetious title... diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia	I have used blue in dcb1 and mixed in SSV1 with no negative impact on noise, audible noise anyway

3rd August 2011, 10:20 PM	#127
mravinsky diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain	I haven´t found blue leds (smaller than 5mm) in my city. So, I must wait. I can achieve 433mA in my neg 15v regulator using a 1R1 resistor.

4th August 2011, 02:02 AM	#128
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	That should be enough. Measure the actual current draw of the load on the negative rail. Don't push the idle dissipation if it suffices for 100mA+ margin.

4th August 2011, 02:47 PM	#129
mravinsky diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain	To Salas and people concerned in Buffalo ii+ Tridents and Legato. I´ve never measured the current draw, because my first exerience with Trident was the my PS then,(Placid 350mA) gave not enough current to lite the leds in local AVCC and Tridents. Then I gave as good what I read in forums: idle current for Buffalo+tridents 450-475mA and 300 mA for Legato. Today I have measured the idle current with the following results: Buffalo + Tridents: 410mA Legato 2 and 3.1 (without Buffers):Between 190 and 200 mA. So that´s the departure point (for me)

4th August 2011, 04:58 PM	#130
Salas diyAudio Chief Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece	So it draws 200mA per rail for the +/-15V rails. Setting the 15V regs CCSs at 350mA is royal.