Smps 220vac / 13.8vcc For 100a

albert_emule · 4th July 2009, 06:25 PM

Hi everybody!

I want to make a power supply for my car audio system. For this, I need a 1.400W supply with 220Vac in and 13.8Vdc out 100A.
If anyone help me, I apreciate.

the pcb layout that was concebibo for symmetrical SMPS, being able to be 1 only:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2966/placaprota.jpg

these photos, it is the toroides what I am using in the project:

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7297/dsc01240g.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5820/dsc01241x.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6488/dsc01242y.jpg

this one here, it is the schematic of the SMPS:
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4180/fullbridge.png

Thanks.

Bootstrapper · 4th July 2009, 06:31 PM

Pulling 100 A current out of the converter requires much thinking! For example the transformer windings will be very huge - even that leads to a large core. From your pictures it looked like the windings would not fit to your core. Do the calculations!

albert_emule · 4th July 2009, 06:46 PM

that not atija 100A, I want that it reaches the biggest current, which will be able with this toroide

albert_emule · 4th July 2009, 06:55 PM

what is the number of turns of the primary enrrolamento and the number of turns of the secondary enrrolamento, for this nucleus?

how must I proceed in the calculations?

Thanks.

star882 · 5th July 2009, 03:48 AM

Open up the amp and find out what internal rail voltages it uses. Then build a power supply that outputs those voltages directly.

odnaizutra · 11th July 2009, 04:10 PM

hi Albert,how is your project?
As i m new in the block ,im thinking about beggin my project in half bridge using igbt +2110+3525 as initial form.Voltage controled regulated power supply.Im about using n27 toroid as main trafo and searching about output inductor,mainly because i will use high bank capacitance.
Have closed the regulation loop already?

Eva · 11th July 2009, 07:11 PM

You should avoid toroid SMPS transformers for offline applications. Proper insulation is hard to achieve and usually ends up degrading transformer performance well below the level of E cores.

Or you may do like that forum member that we know who sells a product where primary mains-live magnet wires touch directly with secondary wires.

A little scratch on the enamel and someone may end up injured or dead.

albert_emule · 13th July 2009, 01:45 AM

my SMPS is with 20A in 112vac, and 50A in 14.74VCC

WHAT CAN BE CAUSING THIS LOW PROFIT?

Eva · 13th July 2009, 07:21 AM

A calibrated power meter is required for efficiency measurements like that. Better than 1% precision is required.

Input current is a complex waveform, the current reading from a conventional multimeter is useless.

albert_emule · 13th July 2009, 09:43 AM

a voltmeter TRUE RMS, is it sufficient to meter the efficiency of the SMPS?

4th July 2009, 06:25 PM	#1
albert_emule diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	Smps 220vac / 13.8vcc For 100a Hi everybody! I want to make a power supply for my car audio system. For this, I need a 1.400W supply with 220Vac in and 13.8Vdc out 100A. If anyone help me, I apreciate. the pcb layout that was concebibo for symmetrical SMPS, being able to be 1 only: http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2966/placaprota.jpg these photos, it is the toroides what I am using in the project: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7297/dsc01240g.jpg http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5820/dsc01241x.jpg http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6488/dsc01242y.jpg this one here, it is the schematic of the SMPS: http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4180/fullbridge.png Thanks.

4th July 2009, 06:31 PM	#2
Bootstrapper diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Pulling 100 A current out of the converter requires much thinking! For example the transformer windings will be very huge - even that leads to a large core. From your pictures it looked like the windings would not fit to your core. Do the calculations! __________________ -Juha

5th July 2009, 03:48 AM	#5
star882 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Open up the amp and find out what internal rail voltages it uses. Then build a power supply that outputs those voltages directly. __________________ "Fully on MOSFET = closed switch, Fully off MOSFET = open switch, Half on MOSFET = poor imitation of Tiffany Yep." - also applies to IGBTs!

11th July 2009, 07:11 PM	#7
Eva diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Near the sea	You should avoid toroid SMPS transformers for offline applications. Proper insulation is hard to achieve and usually ends up degrading transformer performance well below the level of E cores. Or you may do like that forum member that we know who sells a product where primary mains-live magnet wires touch directly with secondary wires. A little scratch on the enamel and someone may end up injured or dead. __________________ I use to feel like the small child in The Emperor's New Clothes tale

13th July 2009, 07:21 AM	#9
Eva diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Near the sea	A calibrated power meter is required for efficiency measurements like that. Better than 1% precision is required. Input current is a complex waveform, the current reading from a conventional multimeter is useless. __________________ I use to feel like the small child in The Emperor's New Clothes tale


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4th July 2009, 06:46 PM	#3
albert_emule diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	that not atija 100A, I want that it reaches the biggest current, which will be able with this toroide

4th July 2009, 06:55 PM	#4
albert_emule diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	what is the number of turns of the primary enrrolamento and the number of turns of the secondary enrrolamento, for this nucleus? how must I proceed in the calculations? Thanks.

11th July 2009, 04:10 PM	#6
odnaizutra diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2007	hi Albert,how is your project? As i m new in the block ,im thinking about beggin my project in half bridge using igbt +2110+3525 as initial form.Voltage controled regulated power supply.Im about using n27 toroid as main trafo and searching about output inductor,mainly because i will use high bank capacitance. Have closed the regulation loop already?

13th July 2009, 01:45 AM	#8
albert_emule diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	my SMPS is with 20A in 112vac, and 50A in 14.74VCC WHAT CAN BE CAUSING THIS LOW PROFIT?

13th July 2009, 09:43 AM	#10
albert_emule diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2009	a voltmeter TRUE RMS, is it sufficient to meter the efficiency of the SMPS?

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