The simplistic Salas low voltage shunt regulator
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Salas
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 Originally Posted by alibear Thanks for the replies. Attached is the circuit I will be using.Sorry I am so dumb, but i still do not understand how to calculate the value of R1. Thanks Alan.
This one will blow Q2 if with 50V+ Vin. Exchange Q2 & R3 for a 10K 1W. R1 sets the current by Ohm's law when dividing the difference of voltage across 3 Leds and Mosfet's Vgs (voltage across gate and source pins). Its like in DCB1, 10 Ohm should give between 160 and 200mA depending on Leds and MOSFET. Start with 6.8R 2W resistor and red generic LEDS for 250mA you mentioned. The voltage drop across the resistor divided by 6.8 will give you the exact current in your build.

 7th November 2012, 04:03 PM #5542 alibear   diyAudio Member     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Somerset Thank you Salas, I now understand how to calculate R1. Is there any other FET that I could use in place of the Q2 2SK170, as I think I have read in one of your posts that using a transistor in that position made an audable improvement over using a resistor. I will of course follow whatever you recomend. Many thanks Alan
 7th November 2012, 05:05 PM #5543 Salas   diyAudio Chief Moderator     Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece You may use a ring of two CCS at 5mA with 60V transistors at the LEDs tail, I have shown such examples before. The 10K is the simplest substitution because K170 is 40V only.
Kazuo Ozawa
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Reflektor +1.2V

I have been evaluated in a few days, and decided to optimize Zobel.
Old; 0R47+0.44uF New; 0R2+2.2uF
As a result the sound became more smooth, transparent without stress. Space is fully filled with music. Of course it is stable strongly. I am satisfied.

Now I noticed on one principle foolishly.
In the Bode chart, if Zobel is optimized rightly, the gain and phase of output are changing smoothly beyond audio frequency zone.
Salas, is it correct?
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 8th November 2012, 06:11 AM #5545 Salas   diyAudio Chief Moderator     Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens-Greece Yes its true. Still it has to do with possible load oddities too. So there is safer general termination or optimized. You could end up to something bit different in another DAC for instance. Checking stability with your scope is the first testing principle when making changes as you have mentioned.
 8th November 2012, 11:05 AM #5546 Kazuo Ozawa   diyAudio Member     Join Date: May 2006 Location: Japan Thanks Salas.
 8th November 2012, 11:54 AM #5547 alibear   diyAudio Member     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Somerset Thank you for your assistance Salas, much appreciated
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nhinstruments
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Location: Wallis
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 Originally Posted by Kazuo Ozawa I have been evaluated in a few days, and decided to optimize Zobel. Old; 0R47+0.44uF New; 0R2+2.2uF As a result the sound became more smooth, transparent without stress. Space is fully filled with music. Of course it is stable strongly. I am satisfied.
In my experiments with the reflekor I also found 2uF better than 0.47u in the output zobel.... Of course I was powering a simplistic and not a DAC so results are system dependent.
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 8th November 2012, 12:50 PM #5549 samoloko   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Jun 2006 what Is and what for reflector Is used
 8th November 2012, 03:22 PM #5550 dahlberg   diyAudio Member     Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden I wonder if it's possible to use the salas regulator as a filament dc supply. What's available is 7.5v ac and that is supposed to end up as 4,75-5,25v dc @1,8A. Is this possible and how much ac ripple is there to be expected at the output ? Last edited by dahlberg; 8th November 2012 at 03:27 PM.

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