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Old 12th November 2011, 07:20 PM   #4631
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I like that dude better while riding a lambretta.

But that is off topic

Same progress on Simplistic / Reflector

I had Simplistic running on 2 Lead acid cells for quite a few hours and now is time to recharge batteries so had a crack at the Reflektor.

It is all work in progress at the moment.

Top and botom of one Channel board

Fuzi picture using a 1.7V Green led signal at the output of reflektor with LM317 30 V preregulator.

Quite a bit of noise going trough (on crapyscope at 20 MhZ crapy scope is prety basic stuff but preaty standard even for poor man outside EU)

So best picture of what the scope alowd me to see.

Much beter with 2V Red led.

And the work around to stop noise from 317 going troug Just a coil of wire I had in the draw.

Sound wise arder of magnitude improvment between Green (wrong) LED and RED LED well worth spending same time finding the right one.

And no need to say the 317 plus choke even better.

Advantages of Reflektor

The Voltagge once dialed in and given few minutes for temperature to setle stay mor or less at the 24 V I have dialed in with the 100K pot in parralel to the 5.6 K resistor.

Changing the voltagge output of the LM317 from 32 to 25 Volts does very litle to the voltagge output.

I will eventualy go back to the Batteries for those (2 X12 Volts in series)

Voltagge will be between 27V (fully charged) and 24V dead batery.

To have sometink to keep a costant voltagge output inrespective of V in IMO is well worth this effort.
Reflektor is there to stay for a long long time.

Noise there is most definetley from bolted on 317

Yes I would like to have a flat line at the output and Choke as is made big improvment battery shuld be a bit better but still not a flat line as even LAC have Jhonson noise.



Question TIME

Did you notice similar noise at output of LM317?

Work arounds?
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Old 12th November 2011, 07:36 PM   #4632
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You should get a straight line easily. There is oscillation pattern. Try without the pre-reg chip before the reg.

P.S. Quadrophenia dude mod(e) checked.
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Old 12th November 2011, 07:54 PM   #4633
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Yess of course is the pre regs. at least I think so as Coke is before input to RefleKtor but then again maybe source resistors to far or wrong (long track) somewhere.

LM 317 is point to point as was desperate to get sometink working.
I will not need it as LEAD ACID CELLS but if one is desperate (batery need charging)
a 317 with a coke can do...

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has it done any worthy thing since?
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Old 12th November 2011, 08:03 PM   #4634
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Those wavy screens are oscillation. Voltage at reg's out should have small drift and when viewed on scope's AC mode at 5mV/div be close to what it gives when set to GND. How high raw DC you can feed from a bridge rectifier and capacitor filter to the reg's input, straight without a chip? If its 30V at least you are OK for 24V output. Try that first, maybe there is bad interaction between 317 and reg's input CCS.
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Old 12th November 2011, 08:13 PM   #4635
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I have about 35 V DC from 24 AC trafo troug 10mU 4.7 R 10mU CRC then 15 mu 317 15mU + 2.2U film.

Maybe I could dial in the Raw DC with the reostat and get rid of LM317 part.

I will try this on Monday

Many tanks for now
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Old 12th November 2011, 08:15 PM   #4636
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35V is still fine. It only adds a bit of heat on the CCS Mosfet. Keep 6-10V DCin-DCout. Its necessary to have a difference. Use the 35V raw DC straight to reg's input. See ya.
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Old 13th November 2011, 07:29 AM   #4637
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Hi, here's the schematic I use for heating direct heated triode filaments. It works very stable at 1A and more, output ripple is in mV range. You can use my layout or make your own, raster is 2.54mm. Make sure you use thick conductors if currents are exceeding 250mA.
Thanks Nick, it's a good job you did on this one!
I am thinking of using this board for the filament of my VT-25 (7.5V at 1.5A) and my VT-25A (7.0V at 1.2A)....do I use R1 = 0.44R and 0.55R; then adjust to 7.5V or 7.0V with the trimmer??

Any other part changes needed??

Cannot buy 2sk170 nor esk117 here....what else can I use??

Thankyou....
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Old 13th November 2011, 11:08 AM   #4638
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Ask to spencer the Toshiba SK170BL Toshiba 2SK170BL for sales

About SK117 ask Tea-Bag GB BiB http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/group...shunt-reg.html
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Old 14th November 2011, 03:57 PM   #4639
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hi guys

sorry about my ignorant. i am building this simplistic salas. i am wondering whats the smallest cap value can i put on the output of the salas reg? as the supplied circuit already has 200uf at the input.

would 10uf MKP or tantalum enough?

thanks in advance
erwin
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Old 14th November 2011, 03:58 PM   #4640
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Wich version?
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