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Old 8th April 2008, 08:32 PM   #1
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Default gate driver transformer setup

I want to drive an isolated half-bridge of IRF540 using gate drive transformers from an SG2525 or similar. I have made a scetch of how it could look, and would appreciate pointers and help on this matter.

mosfet drive

Is the setup sane? The half-bridge will operate from +-47V, the frequency is 53kHz (~9 us per mosfet). Low switching losses is more important than low ESR-losses as the device wont have any current to conduct for most of the time (purpose is voltage balancing due to energy backflow from the load). The reason for IRF540 is that I have 25 pcs left of them..

Second, am I overengineering this thing using a totem-driver after the SG2525 to drive the transformer? The SG2525 is in itself capable of driving and sinking 500mA.

Any hints on component values? I guess I could pick them out using the oscilloscope, but a priori knowledge is always better.

/Daniel
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Old 8th April 2008, 08:55 PM   #2
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If you are switching really fast into a high gate capacitance then those totem poles might be necessary.
Also if the transformer steps up the voltage at all calculate what is reflected back to the totem poles in current drive requirements for the fets.
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Old 8th April 2008, 09:14 PM   #3
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If you are switching really fast into a high gate capacitance then those totem poles might be necessary.
Also if the transformer steps up the voltage at all calculate what is reflected back to the totem poles in current drive requirements for the fets.
Yeah, besides - the mosfets will be backdriven as I will use their body diodes as rectifiers.

The transformers will be 1:1 as I intend to run the thing off a car battery - but I suspect I still should use a sufficient amount of violence just to be safe.
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Old 8th April 2008, 10:11 PM   #4
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Btw, is ferrite material any special concern?

I guess 3F3 and low Bmax (+-1200G or so) with trifilar windings should do it? The many turns that arise from this causes more leakage inductance but increases coupling, which is more important here?
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Old 8th April 2008, 10:28 PM   #5
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Offline full-bridge SMPS....need help

this thread has heaps of useful info including gate drive tx's


best use ferrite and not powdered iron for this.
winding for low leakage inductance is important.
you can easily recycle a base drive transformer from a pc power supply it just takes some patience to take it apart and rewind.
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Old 9th April 2008, 05:56 PM   #6
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I would put a 15V - 20V zener on the gate - source of each mosfet for added protection.
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Old 10th April 2008, 01:22 AM   #7
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I would put a resistor,4.7 -10 ohms in the discharge path for turn-off. Even though you are not paralleling devices you can have destructive gate oscillations on turn-off. This is especially true for the 'low gate charge' FETS.

Local cap should be right on external totem pole drives.
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Old 10th April 2008, 10:24 PM   #8
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What about this circuit? try #2 Still to be driven for constant duty cycle without feedback from a totem pole BJT-output stage (SG2525).

I guess the turnoff current should be controlled enough to avoid gate oscillations during turn-off? I use that scheme in my UcD-amp without any resistors in the turnoff path with no such oscillations.

Have I forgot anything?
* catch diodes after the totem-pole stage to handle the dead bands introdued by having one BJT totem-pole drive another BJT totem-pole
* flux imbalance capacitor on the primary (is this really needed if I replace with a resistor? should do the same job, but with voltage drop as the xfmr walks up to flux imbalance)
* zeners on the gate-source on the mosfets to protect against leakage inductance energy
* diodes directly on the secondaries of the xfmr to break the current path during turn-off to avoid exciting the leagage inductance more than necessary
* finally, a bit more than 1:1 winding ratio to compensate for the 2.8V drop from the totem-pole stages, and the controller outputs, aswell as the dual diode drops of 1.4V on the xfmr secondary sides

How close am I to something that actually holds up for prototyping?
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Old 11th April 2008, 12:27 AM   #9
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You also need protection diodes from primary of drive xfmr to the +15V rail (across top trasistor drive).

I would also but a 10k or so directly across the secondary winding- used during dead time..

Other than that it looks like one of my circuits
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Doesn't the Totem pole transistors in most cases protect the PWM IC chip?
IMO I believe it does with the right components. Since you are driving a transformer especially, strong outputs are a benefit, the totem pole makes more sense to me.

I've seen SG3525 IC blow before when directly driving MOSFETS in a small power inverter. The MOSFETS were fine, but it blew the chip because of the excess load I switched the IC to another good one and it was fine.

With a PWM testing/mosfet driver circuit I built with a TL494, if the outputs are shorted (in case of driving shorted MOSFET) the 1 ohm, 1/8W gate resistors go up in smoke, but the chip stays alive, and so do the totem pole transistors because they are overrated (MJE15034/35), the 1 ohm 1/8W resistors go up in smoke before any other parts would. That's what I like about the totem pole, because I've seen a lot of commerical SMPS without totem poles, and dead PWM chips.
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