Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Power Supplies
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 18th February 2008, 08:13 AM   #31
diyAudio Member
 
ßart West-VL.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: West Vlaanderen
Thank you for the clear explanation, Andrew.

The simulation showed a big ripple indeed and this has to be reduced with more capacity, so it's solving one problem and creating another on the way.

Is it true that a single bridge PSU sags less then dual bridge PSU's?
I heard that this was important for bass amplifiers.
In the simulation the ripple is also less with a single bridge (if I did it right ) Total capacity the same, meaning using the 4 capacitors in dual bridge and then simulating with the same 4 on the single bridge and double the voltage, same current.

I need some software now, any suggestions?
__________________
Bart
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 08:48 AM   #32
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Hey Guys
I am in the process of building 2 aleph monoblocks with a 2kva 35-0-35 (3 leads out of the torroid) in each. If I understand from an earlier post that if the transformer has only the above configuration and not 2 separate 35v taps then I would be unable to use dual bridges?
Is there a possibility of using 2 and how would they be configured?

Your time and help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers

Greg
__________________
"Live each day as if it is your last"
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 08:54 AM   #33
diyAudio Member
 
ßart West-VL.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: West Vlaanderen
And why would you want two bridges instead of one?
__________________
Bart
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 09:53 AM   #34
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Hey,
Well firstly I would like to know if it is possible otherwise there is no choice to make. Secondly Nelson Pass is using 2 in his newer designs and I thought that I would like to stay up to date with technology and PSU developments. I must admit it is rather confusing.

Thanks for your time

Greg
__________________
"Live each day as if it is your last"
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 01:38 PM   #35
AndrewT is online now AndrewT  Scotland
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
a dual secondary can use either a dual bridge rectifier or a single bridge rectifier.
A centre tapped transformer can only use a single bridge rectifier arrangement.

But this does not prevent using paralleled bridges to feed separate PSUs.

There is no advantage in using dual rectifiers for quality of output DC.
But, there may be an advantage when powering two or more amplifiers from the same PSU. Some claim it removes the hum problem.
Quote:
Is it true that a single bridge PSU sags less then dual bridge PSU's?
no.
__________________
regards Andrew T.
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 04:19 PM   #36
pooge is offline pooge  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Northern Va.
Quote:
Originally posted by AndrewT

There is no advantage in using dual rectifiers for quality of output DC.
But, there may be an advantage when powering two or more amplifiers from the same PSU. Some claim it removes the hum problem. no.

There is an advantage to using dual rectifiers. It is in the flux distribution of the transformer. Don't know why it would make a difference in the hum level for two or more amps, though.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...45#post1067745
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 04:34 PM   #37
AndrewT is online now AndrewT  Scotland
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
Quote:
Originally posted by pooge
using dual rectifiers. It is in the flux distribution of the transformer.
could you explain that?
__________________
regards Andrew T.
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 04:44 PM   #38
pooge is offline pooge  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Northern Va.
see link in my edited post.

Also, see:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...874#post143874
  Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2008, 09:47 PM   #39
Archwn is offline Archwn  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
hi everyone,

I built chip amp w/ center tapped transformer. It has no hum at all. I have a separate power supply board and the amp board connected with 3 wires/ channel i.e. +,-,gnd. is this the good way of wiring it as per mikelm / megajocke said? or how should I adjust it?

and if it is a dual secondaries setup, there will be 4 wires/ channel to the amp board is this the proper way?

or should I combine ps board and the amp board? any benifit?

one last question, if I go for 4 single secondary transformers, would there be any benifits compared with one transformers with 4 secondaries.

Thank you.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reopening an unfinished debate: Dual bridge vs. Single Bridge xiphmont Chip Amps 15 26th February 2008 07:22 PM
How to do Single center tap/bridge regulated supplies? ChuckT Chip Amps 10 14th February 2008 02:23 PM
Dual Bridge Rectifiers in PSU - why? monarodan Pass Labs 9 9th January 2007 02:36 PM
Is it the right way to bridge a dual OP amp? Mickey Chip Amps 1 26th February 2005 11:31 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:33 AM.

Page generated in 0.11736 seconds (77.19% PHP - 22.81% MySQL) with 10 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio