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Old 24th January 2008, 04:11 PM   #1
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My college is disposing of about 6 rack mounted APC UPS for servers - all seem to be working 240V models. Unfortunately, I can't find the model number on the case but will open them up & keep looking. Looks like an older model of this SUA3000RMI2U
http://apcc.com/resource/include/tec...u=SUA3000RMI2U

I was wondering if they would be any good for:
- PS filtering based on this quote from APC:
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Full time multi-pole noise filtering : 0.3% IEEE surge let-through : zero clamping response time : meets UL 1449
- I also wondered if they could be easily modded to reduce output voltage to 110V for running of a US Panasonic SA-XR57 digital amplifier (7*100W)?
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Old 24th January 2008, 08:47 PM   #2
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Can anyone explain what the quote means:
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Full time multi-pole noise filtering
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Old 25th January 2008, 04:24 AM   #3
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Take them if they are free or very cheap. If worse comes to worse, you can always sell them or take them apart. Just don't be surprised if the batteries are bad - that's the most common reason why a UPS is discarded.
2700w per unit makes for a nice collection of power electronics.
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Old 25th January 2008, 01:04 PM   #4
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Thanks Star,
I will take some & try to distribute the rest among the DIY community here if my back survives the haulage!
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Old 4th February 2008, 12:08 AM   #5
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Hi jkeny . As I said, i'm running my tube amp a KT88SE , dvd player , and a 42" Panasonic plasma , throught the battery outlets of an online MGE Elipse Max USB 1500 UPS. Video quality has a huge improvement and can be achieved even using cheaper offline UPS. I use a power supply modded Pioneer DV-585avi as universal player CD, DIVX , DVD , as it sounds very well mains filtered this way .
Regarding the APC UPS for servers you have , if they were for server duty , if they are online , and double conversion , they are very good for the job . I think the only safe way to have 110v is using a 220/110 transformer .
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Old 4th February 2008, 12:25 AM   #6
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offline ups's have some power filtering in them, if they are high end ups's then they could be online ups's which constantly convert dc to ac giving much cleaner power than from the wall.

diffently worth picking up handy for a number of things
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Old 9th February 2008, 07:40 PM   #7
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if they are online , and double conversion
APCC does not believe in online UPS. They call theirs "line interactive" and mean they start fast enough for practical purposes. Output is very noisy electrically (not a sine), and the units are usually quite noisy acoustically (while inverting) as well.

Use them for what they are, which is a way to have power for a couple of minutes when the lights go out. A 3kVA unit will run your typical small loads (an amp or a PC) for 30-60 minutes.

The filtering they claim is just a bunch of chokes and MOVs that have to be there anyway to keep EMI down.
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Old 9th February 2008, 08:46 PM   #8
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Thanks WD,

Although APC seem to say the output is a sine?
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High real power output (watts), generous runtime, sine wave output, 16-segment LED visual display, and intelligent battery management make Smart-UPS the leading server class UPS
Would anybody know where I could get a schematic for these smartUPS systems?
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Old 9th February 2008, 08:55 PM   #9
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Would you believe what you see and ear or not ? Please try even a cheap one in your AV , and start asking yourself , if it is noisy how can it improve video quality ?
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Old 9th February 2008, 09:03 PM   #10
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I will, TugaTweaker, when I get the A/V receiver which is coming from the US at the end of the month. So this is by way of research!

I was also hoping to maybe convert one of these UPS from the 230V from the wall to 110V output to A/V receiver, hence I'm looking for schematic also!
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