I really like the look of the Pensils and the mentioned bookshelf, however - I feelt this one is a form factor that's a bit too big for a bookshelf and too small for a floorstander, but I will look further into it.
As stated,will these larger Pensil-models also be good for regular music at normal levels. When reading on Mr Brines page I get a feeling that they're good only for Baroque-pieces - I rarely listen to those.
Are they also capable of modern rock, americana, bluegrass, singer/songwriter, acoustic?
Personal opinion only, and I am sure others will disagree....
No 4" driver is going to do decent 21st century rock justice. You don't even start to get "slam" until you get up to 8" or bigger drivers. But then again you don't want to listen to compressed to white noise, clipped 21th century rock on a highly revealing driver like the A7.3. You want a poly cone driver that will soften up the horrible mixes.
However, the A7.3, including my implementation will do Pink Floyd and Steely Dan. I have all of Alison Krauss' recordings if you want to call that bluegrass. My speakers do a nice job with Norah Jones and I have some more esoteric stuf like Joni Mitchell, Rebecca Pigion, Carla Lother. Etc.
Bob
Having used both drivers it is in my own opinion that the 10s are the better choice as a stand alone set simply due to the fact that if desired, they can be pushed substantially harder.
That being said, I prefer my 7s with subwoofer support over a pair of stand alone 10s I've recently built.
You can't go wrong either way as these drivers are quite incredible.
That being said, I prefer my 7s with subwoofer support over a pair of stand alone 10s I've recently built.
You can't go wrong either way as these drivers are quite incredible.
Jan, no worries, even us septo-generational "greybeards" can get confused from time to time. (well, technically I'm 8 yrs behind Bob B on that, but some days it don't feel like it 
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Mark currently has only one 12cm driver model, the P - although there may still be some 12Ms extant in the gently used market. To achieve the targeted performance with the 12P, I think it's safe to say that smaller enclosures won't deliver their full potential - there are 2 versions of the Pensil for this driver, of which I've only heard the "super" - it certainly delivers, but ain't small.
)Mark currently has only one 12cm driver model, the P - although there may still be some 12Ms extant in the gently used market. To achieve the targeted performance with the 12P, I think it's safe to say that smaller enclosures won't deliver their full potential - there are 2 versions of the Pensil for this driver, of which I've only heard the "super" - it certainly delivers, but ain't small.
Ok. Perhaps the 10P or 10.3 is the middle way. The Pensil 10P is, as I said, a lot fairer in terms of size.
The 10P is probably a very good choice, but I really like the look of the metal drivers. Hard to pick - but I'll have to sleep on it.
Adding subwoofers isn't an option. Most of the listening will be the "late@night"+"Avoidwakingchildren"-kind. I just wan't them to sound full and not being pushed when they sometimes need to be cranked up a bit.
I'd want them to be able to play stuff like this as well.
Tift Merritt - Broken - YouTube
The 10P is probably a very good choice, but I really like the look of the metal drivers. Hard to pick - but I'll have to sleep on it.
Adding subwoofers isn't an option. Most of the listening will be the "late@night"+"Avoidwakingchildren"-kind. I just wan't them to sound full and not being pushed when they sometimes need to be cranked up a bit.
I'd want them to be able to play stuff like this as well.
Tift Merritt - Broken - YouTube
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to whom of the several folks who've heard both is this question directed?
Notwithstanding the differences in enclosures, for me the 10.3(metal) is a bit too forward and "bright" in the upper mids, while the papers were simply smoother overall. This is based on comparison of 10.2 in Brines' M10A10 (by far the deepest bass of the group in any "equivalent box"), 10.3M in Scott's Pensil, and 10.P in the FH XL. The range in which I found the most discernible differences between the 2 new models was well above the point where the enclosure loading would be expected to make a significant difference.
Of course, other folks may have different observations / impressions.
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