wire gauge for maggie
HI: oh great maggie experts (or at least those who have actually been inside the socks)
I have been trying to buy a set of maggies, and Iam contemplating the likelyhood that the pair i end up with will need
wires repaired (or replaced).
john65b says he replaced his tweeter wires with #36 copper
what gauge are the woofer wires?
I looked thru the MUG site and noone seems to mention the dia of the wires
HI: oh great maggie experts (or at least those who have actually been inside the socks)
I have been trying to buy a set of maggies, and Iam contemplating the likelyhood that the pair i end up with will need
wires repaired (or replaced).
john65b says he replaced his tweeter wires with #36 copper
what gauge are the woofer wires?
I looked thru the MUG site and noone seems to mention the dia of the wires
Magneplanars with digital piano
I'm thinking of rebuilding a pair of Maggies and tube amp to use with my digital piano. Yes, I know EVERYONE thinks this is a bad idea, but I HATE horns and I have yet to hear a musical instrument or PA speaker that I like. A real grand piano has sound coming from the top and bottom, much more omnidirectional..
To my question: how does copper wire effect the sound? Is copper going to get me higher a SPL or durability? Since I haven't bought them yet, is there a model that would be better suited to my use?
I'm playing solo at listening levels in a 50'X80' room. I have a good sub, so low end isn't an issue. I really need to do something on the cheap, but I don't want lousy sound. I could use the house PA, it has JBL speakers, Crown amp, Mackie mixer.....not junk-but it doesn't sound "right" to me, it's very artificial.
Mark
I'm thinking of rebuilding a pair of Maggies and tube amp to use with my digital piano. Yes, I know EVERYONE thinks this is a bad idea, but I HATE horns and I have yet to hear a musical instrument or PA speaker that I like. A real grand piano has sound coming from the top and bottom, much more omnidirectional..
To my question: how does copper wire effect the sound? Is copper going to get me higher a SPL or durability? Since I haven't bought them yet, is there a model that would be better suited to my use?
I'm playing solo at listening levels in a 50'X80' room. I have a good sub, so low end isn't an issue. I really need to do something on the cheap, but I don't want lousy sound. I could use the house PA, it has JBL speakers, Crown amp, Mackie mixer.....not junk-but it doesn't sound "right" to me, it's very artificial.
Mark
for the record aluminum is an outstanding conductor, but it is difficult to mate with the copper standard due to corrosion and other effects. There was a time when aluminum wiring was being put into houses, but if a joint became loose between an aluminum wire and a copper one, a fire could be started.
successfull rewire
I just finished rewiring a pair of MGII
I agree with what has been said about alu wire
but copper was easier to obtain and to deal with
so I rewired my tweeters with copper wire.
i ended up at about 4.7 ohms where the original
Alu on the good unit)measures about 5.1 ohms
-pretty close.
as I did one at a time I was able to compare ,
with a quick sweep with a sine wave gen and a rat-shak
spl meter they appeared to be very similar.
The factory stands went promptly into the round can, and they are now on much more substantial ones made of
structural square steel tube with an i.5 inch thick oak plate.
The crossovers are now external.
These are easily the best speakers I have ever owned.
acoustic bass is simply amazing and for the first time
the true scale of a grand piano is there.
Iam now wondering what the models with the true ribbon
tweeter are like.
I just finished rewiring a pair of MGII
I agree with what has been said about alu wire
but copper was easier to obtain and to deal with
so I rewired my tweeters with copper wire.
i ended up at about 4.7 ohms where the original
Alu on the good unit)measures about 5.1 ohms
-pretty close.
as I did one at a time I was able to compare ,
with a quick sweep with a sine wave gen and a rat-shak
spl meter they appeared to be very similar.
The factory stands went promptly into the round can, and they are now on much more substantial ones made of
structural square steel tube with an i.5 inch thick oak plate.
The crossovers are now external.
These are easily the best speakers I have ever owned.
acoustic bass is simply amazing and for the first time
the true scale of a grand piano is there.
Iam now wondering what the models with the true ribbon
tweeter are like.
And you can get the copper wire for the tweeter re-wire at any rat shack - simple magnet wire (36 gauge?).
I could not tell the difference between copper and Aluminum on my SMG tweeter rewire.
I now have the MGIIIA - 3 way - with ribbon tweeter. Must say that it adds a whole new dimension to the highs.
I still have my MMG-W and MMGs too. The SMGIIA is still the best of them.
I have never heard the 3.6R or the 20 series, tho, but I am very happy with what I now have.
I could not tell the difference between copper and Aluminum on my SMG tweeter rewire.
I now have the MGIIIA - 3 way - with ribbon tweeter. Must say that it adds a whole new dimension to the highs.
I still have my MMG-W and MMGs too. The SMGIIA is still the best of them.
I have never heard the 3.6R or the 20 series, tho, but I am very happy with what I now have.
Maggie repair
I would suggest to all of you who are into this explore this forum.
http://www.integracoustics.com/MUG/MUG/
(you may have to cut and paste)
Had I found this last week, I wouldn't have given my old maggies away
J-
I would suggest to all of you who are into this explore this forum.
http://www.integracoustics.com/MUG/MUG/
(you may have to cut and paste)
Had I found this last week, I wouldn't have given my old maggies away
J-
I am now wondering what the models with the true ribbon tweeter are like.
Awesome!
The mere thought of those big ribbons makes me drool.
We bought a pair of IIIa Maggies that needed repair for cheap. Upon contacting Magnepan, we sent them in and they completely rebuilt them and put in new ribbon tweeters for $500. Not DIY, but the best $800 pair of speakers I have ever heard. Hoooodog! I own a set of MMGs, 1.6s, and IIIa, there is nothing like that true ribbon. The MMG and 1.6 are smoked by the IIIa.
Rattling Magnepans
My left MMG began to rattle at high volume a few months ago and I thought I needed to send it back to the factory. I figured the mid/bass wire or diaphragm had come loose.
But, by chance, I disconnected the speaker cable and found that my banana plug had a broken prong. I replaced the plug and that fixed the problem. So the rattle was the result of intermittent contact with the plug (at low frequencies and high volume) and NOT a problem with the speaker itself.
I hope this helps alexmoose save some money while fixing his problem!
My left MMG began to rattle at high volume a few months ago and I thought I needed to send it back to the factory. I figured the mid/bass wire or diaphragm had come loose.
But, by chance, I disconnected the speaker cable and found that my banana plug had a broken prong. I replaced the plug and that fixed the problem. So the rattle was the result of intermittent contact with the plug (at low frequencies and high volume) and NOT a problem with the speaker itself.
I hope this helps alexmoose save some money while fixing his problem!
I feel I ought to follow up on my post earlier in this thread.
The repairs I made a while back seem, literally to have come unstuck*. However, on contacting Magnepan, I have been able to purchase parts & materials sufficient to make a factory quality repair, for the not unreasonable sum of $113 inc shipping.
I'll let you know how this turns out.
Ed
*Very disappointing, I was just enjoying a fantastic drum section from the Beatles Anthology when I heard that distinctive "flpflpflpflpflpflpflpflp"
The repairs I made a while back seem, literally to have come unstuck*. However, on contacting Magnepan, I have been able to purchase parts & materials sufficient to make a factory quality repair, for the not unreasonable sum of $113 inc shipping.
I'll let you know how this turns out.
Ed
*Very disappointing, I was just enjoying a fantastic drum section from the Beatles Anthology when I heard that distinctive "flpflpflpflpflpflpflpflp"
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