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Old 19th August 2012, 11:44 AM   #31
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Actually, I have no interest in million dollar cars. They are not a dream. They are irrelevant. At that price, they should be perfect and they are not. Now I might pick up the one with the newest Alpha or Audi. Within dream range. I have also found that not once was a ultra high price anything ever given a poor review or discussion. Yet, I have heard some and let's just say I have little faith in reviews.

You make a very good point though. We expect the cutting edge to be telling us something, to be developing new ideas, materials and techniques.

Where I have very much liked several planers I have heard, the physical size and environment requirements have made them irrelevant for me. I can actually use a 6 inch 2-way in my room. Who has the cutting edge there? ( besides me )
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Old 19th August 2012, 12:47 PM   #32
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How did you know it was a million? Got ya!
Anyway, yes, buy the bonded logic. Great stuff..
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Old 19th August 2012, 08:56 PM   #33
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OOOOh I want some of that bonded logic stuff! My best panels have been made from compressed fiberglass ceiling tiles. Now to find a retail supplier. My living room has a couple of "issues" to deal with.
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You'd be surprised how much better is home sound without much absorbent around the speakers (but plenty in the room).

Shredded wood (I forget the brand name) and air space. Real challenge is to get absorbent evenly across the range including down low.

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Old 19th August 2012, 09:18 PM   #34
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Who is "word"?

No such thing as a best speaker. Only one that has a set of compromises best suited to the application.

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No if one speaker can be better than another then there can be the best one some where.
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Very similar to bonded logic..
Eco Core Acoustic Insulation - Acoustic Insulation - Acoustic Insulation & Materials
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Old 19th August 2012, 11:24 PM   #36
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No if one speaker can be better than another then there can be the best one some where.
Given that even the best speakers are maybe 10% of the way it is possible to have 2 very different state-of-the-art speakers that are equally valid.

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Old 19th August 2012, 11:50 PM   #37
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Given that even the best speakers are maybe 10% of the way it is possible to have 2 very different state-of-the-art speakers that are equally valid.

dave
That is the nature of the loudpeaker/room/listener interface. The state of the loudspeaker art will never equal(In the listening room at the listening position)the linearity of even the worst measuring single ended triode amps..
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Old 20th August 2012, 03:43 AM   #38
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Graebener with the LS4 diaphragm..http://www.resmagonline.com/uploaded...s/IMG_5969.gif
Notice that the tweeter and midrange coils are etched on one single piece of kaladex. They obviously seal off the tweeter like Piega does with their coaxial(But just in the vertical plane). This picture also gives you an idea of how large each module of the LS4 actually is.
Nice find Sherlock! I talked with Mr. Graebener at length many years ago at a CES show, but at the time, they were still using modded variations of the BG Rd-75. I'd love to work for them, but not so sure how I feel about Reno...

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Nice find Sherlock! I talked with Mr. Graebener at length many years ago at a CES show, but at the time, they were still using modded variations of the BG Rd-75. I'd love to work for them, but not so sure how I feel about Reno...

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I'm not positive, but I think they're located in Carson city(Nicer than Reno)along with BG Radia.
Here is the RD-75 Wisdom..
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Graebener with the LS4 diaphragm..http://www.resmagonline.com/uploaded...s/IMG_5969.gif
Notice that the tweeter and midrange coils are etched on one single piece of kaladex. They obviously seal off the tweeter like Piega does with their coaxial(But just in the vertical plane). This picture also gives you an idea of how large each module of the LS4 actually is.
Now that I think about it, this picture must have been with an earlier prototype. The current model uses a reticulated copper foam for the tweeter diaphragm. I wonder how they apply the voice coil to the foam? ERG: Duocel® copper Foam Properties
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