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Old 30th November 2017, 03:31 PM   #21
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I got these from a now friend, he did an excellent job, I know really nothing about Maggies, but after having T4, 2b, now Smga, they all suffer with vocal in the 100 to 500 hz area, not sure how the xo extends down, BUT your right, They will never be Apogee's.
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Old 30th November 2017, 03:53 PM   #22
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A couple a other things I should mention, I raised them a foot off the floor with custom frame, it reinforced the bass, work best straight up and down on vertical, more midrange, when eq'd flat they sound good, added an Infinity Emit to enhance HF, sound pretty good, EQ fixed the vocal area and few tweaks gave them a new life.
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Old 30th November 2017, 04:00 PM   #23
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What does your equalization look like?? Something broad?

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Old 30th November 2017, 05:12 PM   #24
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yeah, was off a fair bit, cut mid bass , mids boosted, added the emit to get to 16hz flat and rolled off from there. Like to get a laptop and mic, and use rewind on them. I bought the smga off an inmate, he delivered them to me, 120 mile one way, just so he could listen to all my systems, he has 3.6 as well at home. He really liked the RS1b, but didn't like the bass towers, said he could hear a slight cone sound, But he did love the Divas, he figured the Accustat 2+2 were fast and very nuetral, but lacked a bit in soundstage, but I do have them set up for HT.

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Old 30th November 2017, 05:22 PM   #25
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Yeah, the mid boost doesn't surprise me at all. Especially for those users who listen to a lot of vocals. This is not an unusual equalization adjustment to make.

The Magnestand crossovers all boost the midrange response of the speakers quite a bit, and this is the primary reason users seem to like them. Somewhere in the middle between stock and a hugely boosted Magnestand midrange is where I prefer them.

The tweeter extension thing is unsolvable by equalization means. So, your addition of a super-tweeter is something that numerous users have tried as well.

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Old 1st December 2017, 08:19 PM   #26
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The basic tonal balance wasnít that bad to begin with with my SMGs anyways.
Thatís why I stuck with my original crossover design, just ditched the electrolytic caps, and am now enjoying the sounds in my brain, versus those real sounds that is. Better parts have greatly reduced the beaming that these have also, but maybe some like that as well?
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Old 2nd December 2017, 04:15 PM   #27
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Better parts have greatly reduced the beaming that these have also, but maybe some like that as well?
How do better parts (assuming the same component values) alter the polar response of the speakers??

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Old 2nd December 2017, 04:37 PM   #28
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Dave, Do smga's use electrolytic caps???I can see an inductor through the sock.
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Old 2nd December 2017, 05:13 PM   #29
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Dave, Do smga's use electrolytic caps???I can see an inductor through the sock.
Nope. You'll find a polyester-film capacitor of some sort in there. Magnepan generally doesn't use electrolytic capacitors unless a large value is required. And if so, they will shunt with lower value poly caps to achieve the value and keep the diameters smaller so they fit without bulging the covering sock.

However, I don't know what type of modifications were done in your friends rebuild. Easiest way would be to not speculate and lift the sock and actually look.

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I have no idea, maybe itís just in my brain?
Iím sure I could spend a lot of time and measurements to try and figure it out though.
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