Hi,
Charles,
are you saying I am quite correct?
I know you have real experience with MSW. It would be fantastic if you please can post some measurement of your MSW-baffle combo
Richard, we wants drawings!
Russell,
I agree 70%. Sure MSW is not a real fullrange but I have listened a pair of modified Swing with only a big cap in series. They work.
I think we can considerate MSW like a 4". 200Hz of crossover is workable imho without excessive issues of excursion. I like privilege quality than quantity.
Cheers,
Paolo
Charles,
are you saying I am quite correct?
I know you have real experience with MSW. It would be fantastic if you please can post some measurement of your MSW-baffle combo
Richard, we wants drawings!
Russell,
I agree 70%. Sure MSW is not a real fullrange but I have listened a pair of modified Swing with only a big cap in series. They work.
I think we can considerate MSW like a 4". 200Hz of crossover is workable imho without excessive issues of excursion. I like privilege quality than quantity.
Cheers,
Paolo
MSW enclosure
This is some concept.
The sound radiated from the inside of the voice coil of MSW reaches the back of the enclosure.
And some area of outside of the VC reflects and absorbs at the corners.
The refecting plates are made of steel and the enclosure is wood, MDF, or steel.
Is there anybody tried this?
Merry Christmas... ^^
This is some concept.
The sound radiated from the inside of the voice coil of MSW reaches the back of the enclosure.
And some area of outside of the VC reflects and absorbs at the corners.
The refecting plates are made of steel and the enclosure is wood, MDF, or steel.
Is there anybody tried this?
Merry Christmas... ^^
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Just figured out what I would with Manger, the new models
DIPOLE
I would use either 1 x 12" pro woofer with very high sensitivity or 2 x 12" or 2 x 10" if sensitivity is not so high, but still pro stuff
FaitalPro FiveHundredSeries would be nice
And subs would be needed, but have to be very good to keep up, might not be easy
Passive and biamp
Maybe attenuators fore woofers
Or active if find a good one
And cross my fingers and hope those pro woofer arent too rugged below 300hz
DIPOLE
I would use either 1 x 12" pro woofer with very high sensitivity or 2 x 12" or 2 x 10" if sensitivity is not so high, but still pro stuff
FaitalPro FiveHundredSeries would be nice
And subs would be needed, but have to be very good to keep up, might not be easy
Passive and biamp
Maybe attenuators fore woofers
Or active if find a good one
And cross my fingers and hope those pro woofer arent too rugged below 300hz
inertial said:Hi tinitus,
Aaaaahhhhh MSW, you are a fine gourmet!
What is new model?
Mine friend, are you sure about dipole? I strongly desagree here
Cheers,
Paolo
Thank you kindly
Yes its a neo with better sensitivity than the old
I have my serious OB doubts too
but its so easy to build But just now this Manger have my attention
I considere them many years ago, before the neo, but I thought they were too expencive
But new neo could be the answer to my dreams, especially now...would free me of this horn syndrome
Besides, Manger is special driver I would be happy just to own
Tinitus i was so pleased when I have listened the Manger Swing + Subsonice! Terribly natural , in my opinion over the top. And I have listened and owned
bawling: ) a lot of those high end speakers ( I was crazy when I was young!)In the future I have to take a pair of those MSW and try something..
Easy construction? Maybe yes, but the result?
I had :
Audiostatic 300RS
Carver The Amazing Loudspeaker
Infinity IRS Delta
ESS Transar ATD2
A friend of mine had the Quad63
another has (still today) Acoustat X
.....well to make the story short dipoles have broken my b@@@@!
Cheers,
Paolo
Dont look back, its simply too frustrating to realise all the nice gear that got lost along the way 
Many times before I thought, just THAT amp I owned back then, mated with THOSE speaker I owned later on, might have been something really special ...seems like too many things just doesnt happen the way they should...probably due to too much fooling around and lack of experience
Thats a lot of nice gear you have owned, cant compete with that
Many times before I thought, just THAT amp I owned back then, mated with THOSE speaker I owned later on, might have been something really special ...seems like too many things just doesnt happen the way they should...probably due to too much fooling around and lack of experience
Thats a lot of nice gear you have owned, cant compete with that
Not too bad ,tinitus, major part of those audio stuff was famous, and I have purchased used but, I have learned ( at my bad) that claims on the magazines are a thing and reality is another IMO!
Now I am more experienced to not wast 1 euro more!
Nostalgic? No thanks, now my DIY sound (finally!)....
Cheers,
Paolo
Now I am more experienced to not wast 1 euro more!
Nostalgic? No thanks, now my DIY sound (finally!)....
Cheers,
Paolo
Excuse me for the OT here,
But these are the last design who I have worked for:
http://www.sigmaudio.com/pages/products/laborlimae/laborlimae.html
It's not mine design, ( it is a friend of mine) I have only made consultant for x-over
the interesting thing is that the ETON ER4 sound very close to the BG Neo3pdr.........cool, no?
BUT, I have to admit I continue to slightly prefer the sound of the MSW!
Cheers,
Paolo
But these are the last design who I have worked for:
http://www.sigmaudio.com/pages/products/laborlimae/laborlimae.html
It's not mine design, ( it is a friend of mine) I have only made consultant for x-over
the interesting thing is that the ETON ER4 sound very close to the BG Neo3pdr.........cool, no?
BUT, I have to admit I continue to slightly prefer the sound of the MSW!
Cheers,
Paolo
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