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Old 8th March 2013, 08:29 AM   #2081
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There are people and companies dithering even 24/96 to clean up potential mess in the non audible regions.

Upper region mess might get spit back into the audible regions.
Reverse noise shaping? I have never heard of that. Would you happen to have any links?
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Old 8th March 2013, 08:49 AM   #2082
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Have a look at my Hirez article on my block.

You'll find several commercial 24/96 releases that are dithered.
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Old 8th March 2013, 08:59 AM   #2083
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I understand they would use dither. Just I do not see how you could "clean up potential mess in the non audible regions" by dithering when in fact it does the exact opposite. Just like you noticed in your blog, the increased noise in the upper spectrum.

How could adding high-frequency noise clean up the high-frequency spectrum?
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Old 8th March 2013, 09:05 AM   #2084
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As usual noise is used to cover the mess that shouldn't be there.
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Old 8th March 2013, 09:25 AM   #2085
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As usual noise is used to cover the mess that shouldn't be there.
Well, if you think that is what dithering does... But who cares about the actual functionality when what counts is using the right buzzwords for audiophiles...
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Old 8th March 2013, 01:32 PM   #2086
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Well, if you think that is what dithering does... But who cares about the actual functionality when what counts is using the right buzzwords for audiophiles...
It can be fun sometimes how audiophiles see the world of digital audio. They still seem to have this childlike curiosity deep inside.
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Old 9th March 2013, 08:16 AM   #2087
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It can be fun sometimes how audiophiles see the world of digital audio. They still seem to have this childlike curiosity deep inside.
Look.

First of all, 99% of inmates of this forum are audiophiles resp. technophiles (those audiophiles that spent 90% on technology and 10 % on listening).
All of them continously strive for better sound quality from an audio system...
...and ususally succeed in doing so.

There are a huge number and quite sophisticated projects and threads that relate to digital audio - with only one goal -- to get the digital audio nasties away.

Your comment just reflects your very limited mindset. You'd better find yourself another place.
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Old 9th March 2013, 02:05 PM   #2088
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Look.

First of all, 99% of inmates of this forum are audiophiles resp. technophiles (those audiophiles that spent 90% on technology and 10 % on listening).
All of them continously strive for better sound quality from an audio system...
...and ususally succeed in doing so.

There are a huge number and quite sophisticated projects and threads that relate to digital audio - with only one goal -- to get the digital audio nasties away.

Your comment just reflects your very limited mindset. You'd better find yourself another place.
There are many serious audiophiles in here and no problem with that. Without them there wouldn´t be so much progress in many places. Myself is most likely audiophile also.
I only have a problem with some wannabees always looking for credit that throw around with mysterious findings that magically improve sound quality while they even don´t know how things work.

Also i like this place. diyaudio.com is still a very interesting place that covers many interesting areas of audio.
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Old 11th March 2013, 09:05 PM   #2089
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Hi,

I have a question. I am running mpdpup on an alix board to waveio and nos dac. The alix board is connected with ethernet cable to the network in able to get files from the nas and to control with ipad.

I am wondering if a wireless card would improve the sound; galvanic seperation to the network.......

Anybody any experience with this?

And what wifi card would fit the alix/mpdpup?

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I am wondering if a wireless card would improve the sound; galvanic seperation to the network.......
You have already galvanic isolation.

Wireless will reduce the audio quality...
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