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ESS should really reconsider all of this NDA nonsense. It's really not helping their brand. ******* off your most enthusiastic customers is never good for business. And yes, we, the DIY audio community are definitely their most enthusiastic customers.
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"ESS should really reconsider all of this NDA nonsense. It's really not helping their brand."
Trying to protect your business. Nonsense? Target customers of ESS are large scale manufactures. This target group can afford some extra hurdles. ESS couldn't care less about some DIY-audio nerds. ![]() @cdsgames. Thx for sharing your experience and getting all that down to the bottom. And I do hope that people over here reading all that don't consider this discussion a "destructive" effort. I do think that for guys like Ian it's good to know that he has to walk the extra (MCU) mile. And for most other fellows around here it's important to know to better stay away from HW that's lacking proper software support. And not to forget Gandolf. He doesn't want to get trapped in any kind of legal issues. He wouldn't be the first! Thx. Great discucssion.
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Well this has all got very tetchy. The only thing an NDA does is establish a civil contract between two parties. It does not protect information once it has become public (contracts between two parties are not binding on third parties who haven't signed them). If a third party uses information that was formerly protected by an NDA but has now become public, there's no legal recourse for the originator. That doesn't necessarily stop them paying lawyers to write threatening letters, but there's no substance to them.
I'm actually not sure how Gondolf and Clive and Luoy stand: if they breached the terms of their NDA (I don't know the terms so I can't comment) then they may be in trouble for breach of contract. Gondolf says the information subject to NDA was already public and therefore not covered, and he is therefore okay. However third parties who receive the information would not be in any kind of trobule, as they have no contract with ESS to breach. Also don't confuse breach of contract with piracy, which is breach of copyright. The fact that information in this software was once protected by an NDA has no bearing on the copyright licence that it is under.
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Open source package for LG phone V30 (lgmv300s) contains kernel drivers for two ESS codecs - ES9218 and ES9218P (second one copyrighted by ESS).
I believe they might be used as a base for the ES9028Q2M codec. Check the register list excerpts from these drivers: Quote:
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Interesting find!
Are they undermining their own policy!?!? If you can sell several millions of DACs at once, they might consider it worth it. They deliver the DACs since G5 - I think - for the G and V series. Now the question is if this will enable Gandolf and others to go ahead... ...and most important, just apply - if possible at all - the stuff to a different type of DAC!?!? You'll figure it out. ![]()
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