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Old 4th April 2018, 02:51 PM   #21
henrylarsen is offline henrylarsen  Denmark
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Let me add some arguments that in the end counted for me. I have absolutely nothing to complain about when it comes to sound quality of LMS. But I struggled with the reliability of the software setup with LMS. I needed to quite often go to the server setting and correct something for it to work. I tried to install LMS at some friends several times, who were not computer nerds, and I had to stop that again, because af ter 14 days it did not work for them. I ended by giving them an Airplay solution on Raspberries, that apparently is rock solid. Am I the only one with such experiences with LMS?
Another problem that made me try Roon was that I found it unreliable about synchronisation between two sources (kitchen and dining room) did not work well and was in practice so much out of sync that I had to drop it. Again - am I the only one with such experiences?
Finally, and this is made a significant difference - I use Tidal quite a lot, and the user interface that was possible to get over LMS was really poor. While with Roon it works quite well - also with several channels.
But - as mentioned the sound quality one can get with LMS is very good, absolutely no complaints there.
When I say that I do find the price of Roon "cheap" it is when I compare with closed systems like Sonos, which to my experience also cannot deliver same quality as any of the two here mentioned.

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Old 5th April 2018, 05:46 AM   #22
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Let me add some arguments that in the end counted for me. [...]
Thank you for posting your experience.

This kind of hassle is exactly what has driven me away from too much DIY and open source regarding software in the last 5 years. The ratio between setup and maintaining work to effectively using the product as intended leaded always to eat up too much time (and my and my family's nerves).
At least at my skill level wrt software setup and command line mastering.
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Old 5th April 2018, 06:33 AM   #23
henrylarsen is offline henrylarsen  Denmark
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it might have been me that have had particular problems at certain times. And it is said on top of having used squeezeboxes and raspberries in a LMS system for quite some years, so I do not want to scare anyone away from LMS. In my first post I just explained why I was interesting in trying Roon, and my reasons for ending up buying it.
That said, most of the software is developed to a degree where command line mastering is not necessary. Software as Moode, Dietpi, and LMS is not in general demanding that. And raspberries with dac hats is quite easy to set up as players, so I can only encourage you to start playing with it. The beauty is that there is now several ways of using the same hardware with different software systems.
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Old 5th April 2018, 08:50 AM   #24
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I took a ROON trail and compared it to my local LMS. Reason was the dithered volume control in ROON. My evaluation ended with that I did not find the SQ of ROON better than LMS (maybe the contrary) and I did not care at all for the user interface of ROON. Considering also the increased cost with ROON this was not an option for me. Very forthcoming support form ROON I must admit - offered to extended my trail as well as connection with dedicated suport technician.

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Old 19th April 2018, 09:10 PM   #25
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It's not that easy to get them pay $500 during times where apps shouldn't cost more then $10.
You clearly understand nothing about business or software.
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Old 20th April 2018, 06:53 AM   #26
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I am a happy LMS user . with a massive 1TB library. Short question on the room correctin capabilities of LMS, I don't think they're there, in fact I couldn't find any kind of support for equalizing, or FIR within LMS. What am I missing.
Oh yes, paying 500 $ for Roon is simply moronic, as long as there are free options doing a better job. I do have High Resolution Audio files (>10.000 kbps) that won't play through Roon,
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Old 23rd April 2018, 08:18 AM   #27
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in fact I couldn't find any kind of support for equalizing, or FIR within LMS. What am I missing.
Have you tried Daphile? I was a LMS user but switched to Daphile. It fixed some of the problems of LMS and offer FIR.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 08:40 AM   #28
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Daphile? Nope, I am using LMS from a Synology NAS, and I have to take whatever Synology offers. I am super satisfied with the setup, except there is no comfortable way to do SW equalizing.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 12:35 PM   #29
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Short question on the room correctin capabilities of LMS, I don't think they're there, in fact I couldn't find any kind of support for equalizing, or FIR within LMS. What am I missing.
Not sure if the BrutefirDRC plugin is still available. Have a look at this:

Archimago's Musings: HOWTO: Logitech Media Server + BrutefirDRC Plugin in Linux Virtual Machine (VM)
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Old 5th June 2018, 12:53 PM   #30
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A big advantage of Roon over other similar software is that it doesn't rely on UPnP/DLNA.
With Roon certified endpoints (the cheapest ones being RPi's) you are able to play the same program material synchronously in several different rooms / zones. You are not tied to one manufacturer as with Sonos, Bluesound and whatnot to perform this.
I use a QNAP NAS with MPD/DLNA. Endpoints are SOtM sMs-200 music renderer, two laptops, two Vizio TV's and a couple of Chromecast Audio dongles. I can play any system independently of the others. I can play Chromecast Audio in groups, which cover the main floor and lower level. I use free QNAP software for streaming, QMusic for Android and Music Station for Windows. I see no reason to pay for Roon just so I can listen to my own music.

Connecting Chromecast Audio to a better DAC via glass Toslink gives pretty decent sound quality. PCM plays natively up to 96/24. DSD and 2X DSD are downconverted to 48/24.
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