I guess this is the right place to post this. I don't know.
Anyway, I am converting my cassette tapes and vinyl to 24 bit files on my computer with a Audigy 2 sound card. I want to transfer this to a dvd so I can play it in my dvd player. How do I do this?
Can I just use the dvd burner I have in my computer or is it not that simple?
Anyway, I am converting my cassette tapes and vinyl to 24 bit files on my computer with a Audigy 2 sound card. I want to transfer this to a dvd so I can play it in my dvd player. How do I do this?
Can I just use the dvd burner I have in my computer or is it not that simple?
Yes, you can use the dvd burner you have. You need to record using sound processing/recording software such as audacity or one of the packages that came with the sound card. You then need to use one of the dvd authoring packages.
Not sure it makes any sense to use 24 bits on cassette tapes or vinyl - they will only have a dynamic range of 10-12 bits.
Do you want to record to dvd for playing on a dvd player (why not use CD if it is just audio)? Or just archiving?
Not sure it makes any sense to use 24 bits on cassette tapes or vinyl - they will only have a dynamic range of 10-12 bits.
Do you want to record to dvd for playing on a dvd player (why not use CD if it is just audio)? Or just archiving?
Yes, and no...🙂
Short answer... dvd players downsample to (IIRC) 16/48 to prevent digital copying so audio files recorded to dvd won't play-back at 24/96.
However DVD-A players (a format that never took off) covert D-to-A @24/96 and output via their audio-out. Downside is they are expensive even if you can find one.
The good news is that if recorded as a video file then any dvd player can output 24/96 from its spdif coax/optical output.
Software that can record audio to digital video is rare. The best one I have found and use regularly is LPlex.
lplex
It works exactly as described. Study, experiment and post if you have any questions.
However, as many others will tell you it would be far simpler to leave the files as 24/96 and play them from something like a Raspberry Pi with onboard i2S DAC.
Volumio - Audiophile Music Player
Short answer... dvd players downsample to (IIRC) 16/48 to prevent digital copying so audio files recorded to dvd won't play-back at 24/96.
However DVD-A players (a format that never took off) covert D-to-A @24/96 and output via their audio-out. Downside is they are expensive even if you can find one.
The good news is that if recorded as a video file then any dvd player can output 24/96 from its spdif coax/optical output.
Software that can record audio to digital video is rare. The best one I have found and use regularly is LPlex.
lplex
It works exactly as described. Study, experiment and post if you have any questions.
However, as many others will tell you it would be far simpler to leave the files as 24/96 and play them from something like a Raspberry Pi with onboard i2S DAC.
Volumio - Audiophile Music Player
actually DVD players only limit output from files mastered with the copyprotect set
no reason your DVD writing sw should set it
no reason your DVD writing sw should set it
First off, thanks for the help.
16 bit CDs that I have don't have much dynamic range as most of them only have maybe 8-12 db of DR. I have personal recordings of bands that I have been in, that have that,on cassette. Most vinyl has more. I also have 20 bit recordings of a band I was in that has about 18 db of DR. Of course that is not analog.
I can hear the difference between 16 bit and 24 bit. 24 bit sounds closer to analog to me in warmth and depth of tonality. 16 bit sounds thin and distorted. So, I feel I need 24 bit to replace my analog recordings so they sound at least as good as the original.
But I also want to be able to play it on my stereo system as the computer is in a different room. Also, I could play it in my car with a dvd player.
I know most people would say analog is useless but I say 16 bit is useless. Remasters from analog to 16 bit sound horrible and the way they compress the hell out of recordings now, it really sounds horrible. I like DR. That is why I listen to analog.
16 bit CDs that I have don't have much dynamic range as most of them only have maybe 8-12 db of DR. I have personal recordings of bands that I have been in, that have that,on cassette. Most vinyl has more. I also have 20 bit recordings of a band I was in that has about 18 db of DR. Of course that is not analog.
I can hear the difference between 16 bit and 24 bit. 24 bit sounds closer to analog to me in warmth and depth of tonality. 16 bit sounds thin and distorted. So, I feel I need 24 bit to replace my analog recordings so they sound at least as good as the original.
But I also want to be able to play it on my stereo system as the computer is in a different room. Also, I could play it in my car with a dvd player.
I know most people would say analog is useless but I say 16 bit is useless. Remasters from analog to 16 bit sound horrible and the way they compress the hell out of recordings now, it really sounds horrible. I like DR. That is why I listen to analog.
I think we are confusing the dynamic range of the music (and compression) with the maximum possible dynamic range of the signal (as determined by the word length/number of bits).
The dynamic range you are talking about is the difference between the quietest and loudest parts of the music - and subject to compression by studios and producers. It has nothing to do with the maximum possible dynamic range allowed by the media - determined by signal-to-noise ratio or SNR.
A really good cassette tape has a SNR (maximum dynamic range) of 50-60 dB (equivalent to 10 bits). Vinyl reaches 70 dB (equivalent to 11-12 bits) on a good day. 16 bit CD achieves 90-96 dB depending on dithering. As you can see, 16 bit is definitely more than enough to cover the dynamic range of tape or vinyl.
Professional studios tend to record in 24 bits to have headroom in case levels are not optimal, but once recorded, the material is normalized (not compressed, but adjusted in gain so that the loudest peaks are just below full scale), and easily fits in 16 bits.
Many remasters are indeed horrible, but that is a result of the producer/"engineer" compressing it to sound loud, and has nothing to do with what the digital media is capable of.
Oh ho ho semantics !
It is unfortunate that you know the value of everything and the worth of nothing.
Were you as enthusiastic about music as you are about numbers your opinions would engage me more.
to the O/P... trust your ears, they have obviously served you well..!
Experiment and form your own judgements on what matters to you and don't let the number-crunchers limit your expectations.🙂
I am not here to engage you.
Indeed. All the silly number-crunchers do is design all the technology you use. Really, what do they think they know?
Out of interest what would the empty bits be filled with if they were recorded as 24 bit...
I have hundreds of cassettes and LPs I would like to digitise, the other aspect is actually recording at 24 bit on a home computer, are they actually up to it (there is a Ti paper on high resolution conversion and how many bits can be masked by PSU noise etc., the more bits the smaller the steps the more noise has an affect).
I have hundreds of cassettes and LPs I would like to digitise, the other aspect is actually recording at 24 bit on a home computer, are they actually up to it (there is a Ti paper on high resolution conversion and how many bits can be masked by PSU noise etc., the more bits the smaller the steps the more noise has an affect).
Good point. Haven't been able to find specs for the Audigy 2 ADC, but the DAC has a SNR of 106 dB, equivalent to less than 18 bits.
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