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Old 12th August 2013, 02:15 PM   #21
i2k92 is offline i2k92  Indonesia
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Is there any way that it saves a an external library? My experience is that anytime you connect it again, it takes ages to re-read the external library (which has not changed in the mean time).

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I don't remember having that problem. But my collection is not very big. I'll check when I get home. What upnp server that you use?
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Old 14th August 2013, 08:54 PM   #22
jkorten is offline jkorten  United States
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FYI foobar2000 is listed by the OP as linux and mac compatible and the foobar website only lists it as compatible with Windows XP or later.
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Old 15th August 2013, 07:04 AM   #23
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Installing another distro instead of learning how to fix a problem in one of the major desktop distributions is a waste of time indeed.
One month per OS is a waste of time, too. 12 months, 12 distros, the same issues on different boxes. The selection bias in Linux users is blinding. I ask you this: Do you know of ANYONE who spent A YEAR attempting to get an OS to function and failed? A MONTH? Do you know of ANYONE who spent 200 to 500 hours to simply get any distro to do what W95 did 20 years ago? That's the point you should take away. I gave Linux more chance than anyone you have ever heard of. I recommend no one ever use Linux ever. It isn't 'free' because you waste so much time on just keeping it operating at a 1995 level of technology and that time means it costs you money and that means it isn't 'free'. If one must pay someone to install it or spend many hours then it loses any advantage. Those of you who like it, simply enjoy wasting your time.
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Old 15th August 2013, 11:57 PM   #24
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One month per OS is a waste of time, too. 12 months, 12 distros, the same issues on different boxes. The selection bias in Linux users is blinding. I ask you this: Do you know of ANYONE who spent A YEAR attempting to get an OS to function and failed? A MONTH? Do you know of ANYONE who spent 200 to 500 hours to simply get any distro to do what W95 did 20 years ago? That's the point you should take away. I gave Linux more chance than anyone you have ever heard of. I recommend no one ever use Linux ever. It isn't 'free' because you waste so much time on just keeping it operating at a 1995 level of technology and that time means it costs you money and that means it isn't 'free'. If one must pay someone to install it or spend many hours then it loses any advantage. Those of you who like it, simply enjoy wasting your time.
You're funny.

If you want to be tied to an OS that demands a keyboard, mouse, and monitor at all times (really good for a headless music server), that requires regular reboots to keep functioning, that can't be installed on a thumb drive and taken anywhere to boot off any PC, that can't boot off a network drive, that is easily infested with a virus, that can't be customised to your hearts content - even at the code level, that is not open-source, that is code-bloated to a minimum size equal to several gigabytes, that can't be installed in minutes without a boot-fest, and, oh hell, simply can't do all the neat stuff you can do with Linux, please please please keep using Windoze and leave all the Linux users to enjoy the experience without your bloody whining!
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Old 16th August 2013, 11:21 PM   #25
phofman is offline phofman  Czech Republic
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I recommend no one ever use Linux ever.
I am afraid a recommendation like that by someone who

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...spent A YEAR attempting to get an OS to function and failed ... spent 200 to 500 hours to simply get any distro to do what W95 did 20 years ago
will very likely not incite much expertise confidence.
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Old 18th August 2013, 01:07 PM   #26
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One month per OS is a waste of time, too. 12 months, 12 distros, the same issues on different boxes. The selection bias in Linux users is blinding. I ask you this: Do you know of ANYONE who spent A YEAR attempting to get an OS to function and failed? A MONTH? Do you know of ANYONE who spent 200 to 500 hours to simply get any distro to do what W95 did 20 years ago? That's the point you should take away. I gave Linux more chance than anyone you have ever heard of. I recommend no one ever use Linux ever. It isn't 'free' because you waste so much time on just keeping it operating at a 1995 level of technology and that time means it costs you money and that means it isn't 'free'. If one must pay someone to install it or spend many hours then it loses any advantage. Those of you who like it, simply enjoy wasting your time.
Sorry to hear that. Linux never fail me.

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Old 26th August 2013, 06:17 PM   #27
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Old 26th August 2013, 06:30 PM   #28
skunark is offline skunark  United States
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mpdpup, raspify, voyage mpd are all custom linux distros that use Music Player Daemon (MPD). So MPD should at least be on this list as other OSes can also use MPD.

BTW, this seems rather useful:
Comparison of audio player software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 27th September 2013, 02:07 PM   #29
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AlbumPlayer (NOT the russian one)
- is very good and has the best Visual Interface
www.albumplayer.com
$30

Here is a good review
Music Server Playback Software Suites
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Old 5th October 2013, 01:17 AM   #30
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I have tried album player for years . If I didn't know MP3toys allready I would think it is nice but it still can not be compared in my opinion. Spent an evening of trying various alternatives again. I used to be a big fan of Foobar. Tried J.river again this evening. I pretty much hate it. It gives me a feeling of working with a database instead of being involved with my music collection. Same for all of the other database based programs like I-tunes, Mediamonkey, etc etc. Tried all of them. Again, I'm about the only very big fan of MP3toys. No other program in the whole entire world up to know gives me the feeling of being totally involved with my music collection. O.k. it lacks functions. If you are a big fan of creating playlist it falls short but if you want to feeling of playing cd's with the convenience of a computer, really try it out. Give it some time to get around and you all will love it. at least I do, very much so. It is not supported anymore and might be old in computer terms but it still is the very best to me. Programmers stand up, learn from it and come with something better. At least I hope you will because MP3toys still ain't perfect but lightyears ahead of any competition so far.

What strikes me most, after all those years of working with various audio players is that everyone seams to stick to the same kind of interface and just are just adding functions over the years instead of thinking it all over again. Really, 90% of all the music players ara very old fashioned programs. I tunes, J.river, Windows media player, etc etc are stone age programs, based on last century database and spreadsheet programs. Every update is just patch work witch make it only blurred in it's functionality. It's 2013 for god sake, time to start from the bottom all over again. If for instance if a company like Apple really wants to be the software inventor they pretend to be , please get rid of I-tunes today. Please throw it in the garbage bin, don't ever look back and suprise us with something really new. I-tunes is already 12 years old and is basically still the same. That's stone age in computer terms. Same for all of the lookalikes. Time to start all over again. PC audio is not the future, it's the present so act like it.

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