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Old 15th October 2012, 08:12 AM   #21
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The PC is running OK and has done for a few weeks since that last mishap.
I have uninstalled the soundcard twice and installed it again.
I have switrched off and removed the soundcard and after powering up uninstalled the soundcard.

I have tried to install after adding the soundcard back in.

I just cannot get ANY sound out of the PC, not via the original 1/8" trs and not via the soundcards 1/4" trs.

The loss of sound coincided with downloading and running the measurement asios.

How do I get back any sound?
Not sure what is happening Andrew, but I suspect the audio settings are somehow screwed up with install and de-install. Some drivers are a pain to remove, but there should be specific driver cleaners on the web.
If what has been promoted above does no good I would suggest de-installing all the audio drivers from the Control Panel, ASIO etc, then reboot the machine.
Even if the system uploads Win audio drivers during reboot, install the latest from the manufacturer's site. That should restore your onboard sound defaults at least to get you back to basics.

Win 7 is quite versatile on the audio side, but get basic audio back first I would suggest....

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Old 15th October 2012, 11:49 AM   #22
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Lots of suggestions. Thanks.

I will work my way through these and see/hear where it gets me.

I will be back.
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Old 15th October 2012, 12:11 PM   #23
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Did you turn off the onboard sound system in the BIOS before you installed the Win7 OS?

Somtimes this can cause issues if you don't before you install the OS and then install the new sound card.

I know it works in Linux this way.

I too am still running on XP only because I couldn't get either of my sound cards (Gina24 and X-FI) drivers to work in Win7.

It seems that only the latest creative porducts are supported in Win7 by Microsoft.
I don't know about the other company's.

I do know that there is a third party driver installer for my X-FI drivers but haven't tried it yet as I got tired of messing with it for well over a week.
One night I reinstalled everything five times in one night and nothing worked except Win7 booted and ran.
Not to mention that I can't use my SCSI interface card in Win7 either.
No biggy but I do need good sound!!

I don't mind sticking with XP64 but there are a few nice features that I would like to use in Win7.

I haven't tried it in my newer FX-6100 system yet but I may when I get some time just to see if it either or both will work in that system thinking it is a motherboard issue.
Win7 and Win8 runs fine on my old Opty 185 but my older cards (Sound and SCSI) do not!!!

Anyway that is the only thing I can think of trying.
This is very interesting because I was considering on getting the same Sound card you have when I do build myself a new system as the FX-6100 belongs to my mother.

Good luck !!

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Old 15th October 2012, 12:33 PM   #24
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The win7 install was a brand new clean HDD build.
There was nothing to wipe.
The on board sound worked until I installed the sound card.
Then the sound card worked until I ran the measurement asios that another measurement thread put up to get the emu1212 running as a measurement card.
Those two problems, first losing the ON BOARD sound to my two little speakers and then losing the sound card sound to my stereo system were both as a result of what I thought I was doing right.
Obviously things have moved on since msDOS days !!!!
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Old 15th October 2012, 12:50 PM   #25
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Yep, I know what you mean !!! :/

Honestly I don't care much for Win7 or 8.
But they are a little bit snappier and I would like too use a couple of the new features.
But I guess I am stuck for now.

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Old 15th October 2012, 01:51 PM   #26
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To be fair Jer, it is Creative not writing drivers for 7 rather than Microshite which are the issue.
Win 7 is a lot less pain to get the dac working through my audio system than XP ever was, and I am currently playing hires through the DAC with all other Win audio coming through hdmi to the TV. The DAC simply works unimpeded in the background, although not using WASAPI but the proprietary Asio driver, which was less easy to get sorted on the XP machine.

You are trying to do some Asio measurement stuff Andrew, so can be no assistamce there I'm afraid.
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Old 15th October 2012, 11:21 PM   #27
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You really do want to check in Control Panel (Sounds) to see if Windows even knows the devices are there. That's your line of attack.
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One more remark: Since there are too many software, they may use different approach. I am a solid practical guy. No matter how technology sounds good or excellent measurement figure, the final acceptance test is perfectly done by your ear because sound is a perception to human being. Close your eye to avoid branding effect, listen to different unknown audio gears and choose the best one you prefer. Open your eye, then you know the brand name. It is my approach.
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Old 16th October 2012, 06:15 AM   #29
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Very Good Point Pano !!

I my situation the device didn't even show up in the control panels list of devices.
So, therefore it was impossible to install the drivers.
At least the way that I know how through windows.

Stupid Microsoft !!!

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Old 23rd October 2012, 04:40 PM   #30
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....................Microsoft - [Ref:#1] ............
Im stuck at ref 1.

The system is reporting three instances of sound devices.
Two under sound, video & games appear to be working OK and have drivers associated with them. I think both these are pointing to the on board sound device. Don't know why it appears twice.

The third is under other devices/ multimedia audio controller.
It is there but not working. I think this is the emu1212. It reports the drivers are not installed.
When I try to search for drivers it does not give the option to search the net, only on the HDD.

If I download the drivers from emu, where should I save them so that the system can find them when I click update driver?

I wonder if the drivers are different for the 1212PCI from the 1212PCIe.
The card is in the pCI slot. The graphics card is in the pCIe slot.
In my old computer the PCIe slot is empty so the sound card is in the PCI slot as well.
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