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Old 24th January 2010, 05:31 PM   #31
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I still think Earl is going to have to tweak the latency of each set of audio hardware/drivers
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Old 24th January 2010, 05:48 PM   #32
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I still think Earl is going to have to tweak the latency of each set of audio hardware/drivers
I don't think that the latency will be such a big issue as long as the players are not in rooms that are very close togther. I mean as long as we are talking about a 100 ms or less, because that on the order of the propagation delay from room to room anyways. More than that and it becomes an echo and would be offensive even in widely seperated rooms.
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Old 25th January 2010, 11:33 PM   #33
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I see what you mean, if that's the case there should be a solution here. Still 100msec delay and only 10 foot separation might sound strange. I think all sound cards are down in the 10msec region these days so it does not matter in any case.
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Old 25th January 2010, 11:42 PM   #34
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I see what you mean, if that's the case there should be a solution here. Still 100msec delay and only 10 foot separation might sound strange. I think all sound cards are down in the 10msec region these days so it does not matter in any case.
Latency in the sound card would not be an issue, but streaming might since that stuff is asychronous.
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Old 25th January 2010, 11:48 PM   #35
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Latency in the sound card would not be an issue, but streaming might since that stuff is asychronous.
Sorry I forgot my own previous comment, all asychronous links require buffering so you would at least have to make sure this is accounted for. This can usually be set via some buried dialog somewhere.
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Old 26th January 2010, 12:28 AM   #36
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If you are going for minimum latency then use a high sample rate vs a low one. 256 samples of 44.1k is larger in time than 256 of 96k. And with digital I think that's the best you are going to get is small latency.

Don't some soundcards have a zero latency bypass for musicians to do overdubs and monitor without the latency? I know you don't have any fancy cards like that Earl just more a comment about all asynchronous needing buffering.
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If you are going for minimum latency then use a high sample rate vs a low one. 256 samples of 44.1k is larger in time than 256 of 96k. And with digital I think that's the best you are going to get is small latency.

Don't some soundcards have a zero latency bypass for musicians to do overdubs and monitor without the latency? I know you don't have any fancy cards like that Earl just more a comment about all asynchronous needing buffering.
Key, I think this is a captive environment thing i.e. the software knows this particular sound device is directly connected. TCP/IP at best still does not guarantee 10usec timing accuracy on delivery. I would be highly surprised if you could run a TCP/IP audio stream with no buffering at all. Even in a closed at home network you could decide to burn a couple of DVD's in the backround off of your network attached drive.
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Old 26th January 2010, 02:12 AM   #38
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I was more thinking kludge like workarounds like daisy chaining with two analog cables lol. Like certain cards that are meant for overdubs I believe you can monitor the analog chain making it zero latency.
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Ok, I have all my music in my PC, it can be accessed from any computer in my house and I can play any song, anywhere, at any time. But I can't seem to do one important thing and that is play the same song on two different PCs in synch. Is there an app that will stream from one computer to all the others allowing me to play one song from one PC on all the other PCs?

I'm talking about using my home giga-bit local ethernet of course. I shoudn't have to add a single piece of hardware, only software.
Sonos. Just Google it. If synching is your number 1 priority I doubt you could find a system at its price point that will get the job done. Put your music on a NAS and start up the Sonos system and you will have what you want. Control with Sonos controller or iPod touch/iPhone. Enjoy the music.
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