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Old 11th October 2009, 04:29 AM   #11
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EAC with AccurateRip works for me.
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Old 11th October 2009, 04:53 AM   #12
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It works fine for me

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I see, you mean cdda2wav from the cdrtools suite.
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Old 11th October 2009, 05:16 AM   #13
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I see, you mean cdda2wav from the cdrtools suite.
OK, I got that backwards... I thought you meant writing.

Reading, I use cdparanoia ... a lot slower than cdda2wav, but can mostly recover even a CD found on the road

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Old 11th October 2009, 05:19 AM   #14
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How about someone take a reference CD with low-distortion sine waves, square, saw, etc and rip it with each ripper and see which ones don't distort?

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Also the CD drive matters too. Plextor is generally regarded as the best for error recovery, etc. Look on the EAC site for comparisons between drives.

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Old 11th October 2009, 06:31 AM   #16
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Also the CD drive matters too.
Indeed!

I have personally found LG drives to be the most reliable and flexible with media.

(Yamaha was the worst I've tested... and it was a $500 drive to the LG's $60 )

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Old 11th October 2009, 06:39 AM   #17
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I get great results when using the LG BluRay GGW-H20L, but it's a slow ripper with E.A.C.
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Old 12th October 2009, 05:17 AM   #18
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Hi Pete,

Make sure you get the dBpoweramp "reference" version (I think that's what it's called). I evaluated it against EAC and found that if you wanted all ripping options available to EAC users (use of the FUA command, for example), "reference" was needed. I did a comparison here.
Thanks Andy, your tests in that thread are very informative. I happen to have an LG drive on the system that I'll probably do most of the ripping on so I might just stick with EAC.
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How about someone take a reference CD with low-distortion sine waves, square, saw, etc and rip it with each ripper and see which ones don't distort?

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Further than that.... if these programs are capable of producing perfect rips it should be demonstrable that the same track ripped to what the programs agree is perfect, will have the same CRC/MD5.... regardless of which program/drive.
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Old 12th October 2009, 03:56 PM   #20
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I use the following test under Windows with EAC to check bit-perfectness of ripping and burning. This procedure requires that the write offset for the drive be set correctly in addition to the read offset.

1.) Pick a popular music CD to rip. This will assure it's in the AccurateRip database and that there will be lots of submissions for a high confidence level.

2.) Rip the CD to individual tracks. Make sure you get a clean bill of health from AccurateRip for all tracks. Then delete the ripped tracks.

3.) Rip the CD again to a single WAV file image plus CUE sheet. Let's assume this WAV file is called file1.wav.

4.) Burn a CD-RW from file1.wav and its CUE sheet using EAC's CD burning utility. I use a CD-RW just so I can reuse the disc when done.

5.) Rip the CD-RW you just burned to a WAV file and CUE sheet. Let's assume this newly-ripped WAV file is called file2.wav.

6.) Run the Windows FC utility to compare file1.wav and file2.wav. This is done simply with:

FC file1.wav file2.wav

from a command-line window. The files should be identical. If the AccurateRip data is okay but the FC test fails, the write offset of the drive is probably not set correctly.
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