Computer based Hifi

[Sharkythefrog]

THe Mp3tag works well - Except for the "Little" problems that my network harddrives where I store all my musik doesn´ty appear in the program, haha!!!! Interesting

[Sharkythefrog]

Yet again,
The problem was not anything else than a Vista64-problem. Has anyone heard that before . . . . .

In a Vista32-computer it works fine. . .

[billyk]

MP3Tag works on all my stuf Vista 32,64 and XP. No issues with seeing drives, local, network, USB, or firewire. Aslo size not an issue I have two 1.5 TB disks that are fine.

[Sharkythefrog]

This has been a problem for me with the two 64b-Vista that I have. The two D-Link NAS on the network doesn´t show up in the explorer. They have to be mapped with the D-link software to show up. Even with that done they just dont appear in some program etc.

I have had Serious discussions with D-link about this as they are persistant in syaing that it is nothing they can do. But every other item (PCs, NAS, writer, router etc) on the network works fine except for their hardware . . .

Anyway I manage to get them visible at last and have now put tags into all my CDs one by one. Works well. Mp3taghas great functions for converting file name to tags which suits me perfect as I have named all the music files with the information normally used in tags. Great program You let me know about.

Are only missing one thing in Mp3tag, and that is to the upload information to the Freedb. Found about 50 CD that´hasn´t any information there and I really like to contribute (lika in EAC).

[Key]

Originally Posted by Sharkythefrog

The sound FLAC or WAV ? ->The same
The sound with Foobar plugins (ASIO etc) or not? -> Little bit lighter, more air (possible thanks to less distorsion)

If you are so sure then take a song and make two secure copies (1 wav and 1 flac) load them into foobar's playlist. Highlight both tracks, left click>utilities>ABX two tracks. Then see if you can actually identify one from the other.

[ChrisA]

Originally Posted by Key

If you are so sure then take a song and make two secure copies (1 wav and 1 flac) load them into foobar's playlist. Highlight both tracks, left click>utilities>ABX two tracks. Then see if you can actually identify one from the other.

The listening test is not sensitive enough. Most people can't hear the difference between 320K MP3 files and a real CD. and if they listened would conclude that they are the same.

The way to test for sure is to do a round trip WAV-->FLAC-->WAV encoding and compare the double transcoded wave file to the original bit per bit. A good way to do this if you don't have a binary file compare utility is to go into an editor like Audicity or Logic and subtract one WAV from the other and then check for anything other then dead silence.

There is really no point in doing the test because we know that FLAC, Apple Losses and the other "loss less" formats are in fact loss less and 100% bit accurate

That said, You might have buggy software. If you can find a bit error then it's the software not the file format to blame

[Key]

Well the reason I wanted him to do the test was to show him that one file did not have any more or less "air". Or more or less distortions etc.. i am well aware that lossless means exactly the same.

[CBRworm]

Originally Posted by ChrisA

There is really no point in doing the test because we know that FLAC, Apple Losses and the other "loss less" formats are in fact loss less and 100% bit accurate

Are they really loss less? I thought they were lossy, just not as lossy as MP3.



Hmmm. now I'll have to do some tests. Most of the analog stuff I save I capture in SoundForge and capture/save the files at 96khz 24bit which end up being pretty large. If I can .flac them and not lose anything. . .

If not for that I wouldn't need nearly so many TB of storage space.

[Key]

Yes FLAC is lossless. There is also wavpack which will give you a smaller file size but decodes slower and doesn't have as much hardware support.

[homemade]

Originally Posted by Key

If you are so sure then take a song and make two secure copies (1 wav and 1 flac) load them into foobar's playlist. Highlight both tracks, left click>utilities>ABX two tracks. Then see if you can actually identify one from the other.

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Windows Media Audio 9 Lossless is a lossless audio codec by Microsoft, released in early 2003.

It compresses an audio CD to a range of 206 to 411MB, at bit rates of 470 to 940 kbit/s. The result is a bit-for-bit duplicate of the original audio file; in other words, the audio quality on the CD will be the same as the file when played back. WMA Lossless uses the same .WMA file extension as other Windows Media Audio formats. It supports 6 discrete channels and up to 24-bit/96kHz lossless audio.

How does this stack up to FLAC?