Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Pass Labs
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Pass Labs This forum is dedicated to Pass Labs discussion.

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 14th March 2007, 12:40 AM   #1
norb is offline norb  Germany
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Germany
Smile Another new A75

Hello everybody,

completed the electronics of my A75 a few days ago (i will build the chassis subsequently) and i am extremely happy with it already.

Many thanks to Mr. Pass and Mr. Thagard for an excellent project. No problems at all, the amp worked perfect and stable right from the beginning and surprised me by having no turn on/off-thump. Nice add-on.

My A75 is a dual mono with self-designed and made pcb´s. Changes are the TO-220 IRF630/9630 on the output stage, 0R82 source resistors and Q11 mounted on the output stage heatsink for I found that it improves bias current regulation.

The amp is set up unbalanced (have to build a preamp yet), 100% feedback, folded cascode with R21/22 = 100R, and sounds very clear, has a wide stage and a powerful and precise low end. My only direct comparisons are Onkyo A7 and H&K 655Vxi (sorry for that) and the difference is stunningly large. With any well recorded music, it is like wiping a (thick) layer of grey dust from a window you thought to be pretty translucent already. Speakers are Isophon Europa.

I will test some other setups over the next weeks and hear what happens.

One thing i tested so far is thermal coupling of the input-fets for better offset regulation, so far coupling of only the two N´s and P´s of the differential pairs has decreased offset regulation. I expect coupling of all input fets to yield better results, maybe somebody can share his experience on this topic.

Building this amplifier is a huge reward (also for your local electricity provider) and enjoyment. Thanks again.

Norbert

For the photo: lower pic shows one channel: top pcb is front end power supply, lower pcb is front end, blue wires are speaker out, the red and black wires with lugs go to the capacitor power rails mounted on top (upper pic showing complete channel in crude test setup), the black rectangular bits are the source resistors, the square ones the mosfets.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg a75.jpg (95.9 KB, 929 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2007, 01:49 AM   #2
diyAudio Member
 
MEGA-amp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Newington, CT
Looks good so far!! What voltages are you running on the front end and output stage?
  Reply With Quote
Old 14th March 2007, 11:32 PM   #3
norb is offline norb  Germany
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Germany
After warming up the front end voltage levels out at +/- 51V; output stage is +/-41 V with 120mA bias. Heatsinks are 45°C with fans at 800 rpm, so the Mosfets shoud feel comfortable.

I may switch to toroids with a few volts less, because the standard trafos do hum a bit and i will see how noisy they are once the chassis is completed. Luckily the fans are nearly silent.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2007, 12:00 AM   #4
moe29 is offline moe29  United States
diyAudio Member
 
moe29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Florida
Send a message via AIM to moe29 Send a message via Yahoo to moe29
I always think "serious amp" when i see A75 builds

nice job.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2007, 12:42 AM   #5
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Quote:
completed the electronics of my A75 a few days ago (i will build the chassis subsequently) and i am extremely happy with it already
Well, that could be a mistake--

because you won't be able to listen to it while you are putting the electonics into the chasis. I had mine in an open unfinished chasis for over a year before I could bring myself to take it out of service.

Very nice work, BTW!

JJ
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2007, 06:01 AM   #6
Blues is offline Blues  United States
Lightning In A Bottle
diyAudio Member
 
Blues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Bremerton, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by jupiterjune


Well, that could be a mistake--

because you won't be able to listen to it while you are putting the electonics into the chasis. I had mine in an open unfinished chasis for over a year before I could bring myself to take it out of service.

Very nice work, BTW!

JJ

Advice to the knowledgeable in electronics...build the chassis first. The sweet spot can be addicting!
__________________
Quad Matched Toshiba 2SK1530/2SJ201 MOSFETs http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/swap-...ml#post2086375
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2007, 11:36 AM   #7
diyAudio Member
 
jacco vermeulen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: At the sea front, just under Rotterdam
Send a message via Yahoo to jacco vermeulen
Quote:
Originally posted by norb
TO-220 IRF630/9630
Cheapest MOSFET output devices around, pleased to see another 630/9630 A-75 constructor

Quote:
the capacitor power
EPCOS B-41580 ?
__________________
Looks like Sponge Bob has killed another thread.
  Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2007, 12:44 AM   #8
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Jacco-

Quote:
Cheapest MOSFET output devices around, pleased to see another 630/9630 A-75 constructor
I used 634's/9630's --does that count?

Is the metric equivalent of a #4 screw any easier to tap? tapping 48 #4 blind holes was an exercise in patience!!!!!

Norb--what input mosfet's did you use?
No experience here with thermally coupling them. Keep us posted as to how that works!

JJ
  Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2007, 08:56 AM   #9
diyAudio Member
 
jacco vermeulen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: At the sea front, just under Rotterdam
Send a message via Yahoo to jacco vermeulen
Tapping regular UNC, Metric or oldy Witworth makes no difference, blind tapping always is a pita.
same goes for tapping fine wire , no matter whether it's UNF, Metric fine or BSF.

If they were cheap they count, i've yet to build a more affordable output stage than the A-75's.
I recall paying 20 times more for a comparable 75 watt Pd, TO-220 RCA RFP type MOSFET for another design.
__________________
Looks like Sponge Bob has killed another thread.
  Reply With Quote
Old 16th March 2007, 09:32 AM   #10
Vix is offline Vix  Yugoslavia
diyAudio Member
 
Vix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Somewhere on Planet Earth
Quote:
Originally posted by norb
I may switch to toroids with a few volts less, because the standard trafos do hum a bit and i will see how noisy they are once the chassis is completed. Luckily the fans are nearly silent.
Oh, yes. They HUM. In any "normal" application this is not an issue, but when you listen at low volumes late at night this can be quite irritating. I have built pass amps (Zen V9 and F2) with standard EI transformers, and their HUM is the only flaw. I am also looking to replace them by torroid ones.

A-75 is a good choice, deserves a nice chasis


  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:53 PM.

Page generated in 0.10214 seconds (82.43% PHP - 17.57% MySQL) with 10 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio