F4 power amplifier

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twitchie said:
Thank you ZM :D

Actually what I meant to ask was how much bias can the 510/9510 take? Should I just let the heatsinks decide :devilr: ?

(previous post should have been bias adjustment, not gain)


presuming that your hphones aren't too hungry - 150 to 200mA will suffice .


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Let your ears/heatsinks decide ;)



Magura :)


always nutty Metaldanske :clown:

but - speaking wise ......
 
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it's alive!

Currently running at 125mV or about 250mA and the heatsinks don't actually feel very hot until you squeeze them between your fingers for about 5 seconds and then they are hot, but not too hot to continue holding.

Had them hooked up to LM317/337 regulated supply at first, but it was unstable so I suspected it was drawing more than the regulators could handle.

Right now, it's running on super-overkill psu held down to 15V with a variac

I need to figure out a permanent solution for the psu since I don't have any 'appropriate' transformer.

Anybody have a good recommendation on minimum VA for the transformer? 10VA enough? I was thinking of a 12V (AC) through hole Pulse transformer from digikey

http://www.pulseeng.com/products/datasheets/LT2006_27.pdf

What would the min VA recommendation be? I have a few of the 15V 2.3VA ones:

http://www.pulseeng.com/products/datasheets/LT2006_10.pdf

Here's what it looks like so far:

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with the psu:
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twitchie said:
Currently running at 125mV or about 250mA and the heatsinks don't actually feel very hot until you squeeze them between your fingers for about 5 seconds and then they are hot, but not too hot to continue holding.

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Right now, it's running on super-overkill psu held down to 15V with a variac

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Anybody have a good recommendation on minimum VA for the transformer? 10VA enough? ..........


2x15V DC means that you can use 2x 12Vac ( 24Vac ct.) xformer

well - 2x15V x 0,25A x 2(channels) = 15W of pure dissipation ;

use at least 3x that as xformer power .

45VA is ok , 60VA even better
 
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Twitchie,
Go nuts and really do it right - won't cost the earth.

Suggest a 30V centre tap, 100VA to give you a "raw" rails about +/-20 volts, and then simply reg it down to the 15V rails - a couple of Toole shunts (boards available soon) look to be perfect for this, or any other GOOD supply. (317/37 will take more than 1/4 amp, but easy to slave as Teddy-Power Reg for example)

Phones are much more critical, long term, than speakers.

[... then you can also try it on the DOA, just for fun!]
 
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I am building a pair of SE Mono F4's and would like opinions.

I have 2 pair of the Conrad Heatsinks from the group buy.

Would mounting 3 Mosfets per heatsink and running a higher bias current to get 50 deg C be better than all 6 Mosfets on 1 heatsink at a lower current?

What bias current would each allow for.

rigma
 
rigma said:
Starting to stuff my boards and realized:

I ordered FQA12P20-ND but received FQAF12P20-ND

There are differences according to the spec sheets (links below)

Could someone with more knowledge than me let me know if the FQAF12P20-ND is OK in F4


http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=FQA12P20-ND

http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1018029-mosfet-p-ch-200v-11-5a-3pf-fqaf12p20.htm

The FQAF12P20 is TO3PF package, will dissipate 70W and the FQA12P20 is TO3P will dissipate 150W -- see

http://mouser.com/catalog/637/513.pdf

The FQAF12P20 isn't on Fairchild Semi's website, or at least it isn't this Saturday morning.

ND just means "number digikey"
 
jacco vermeulen said:


The PF stands for fully insulated plastic package, unsuitable for high thermal exchange purposes.


Naah Grünschnabel, I think you made a typo, no?


The P in TO-3P is as opposed to a regular TO-3, which is a metal can.
So, we have TO-3P(lastic).

The F is as you describe the designation for "Fullpack", as in fully insulated.

For the F4, I would not worry too much about it, 70W per device is still plenty.

Magura :)