Speakers for Zen - diyAudio
Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Pass Labs

Pass Labs This forum is dedicated to Pass Labs discussion.

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12th January 2007, 03:47 PM   #1
rgheck is offline rgheck  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Canton MA
Default Speakers for Zen

I've been thinking about building one or another of the Zen amps but they seem to be somewhat demanding about the associated speakers. So I'm curious what speakers people like to use with these amps.

I should say that my current electronics are, in my main system, Aleph P, Aleph Ono, and Aleph 2s; the front end is a VPI HW-19 Mk IV/SAMA/SDS with a Graham 2.2 arm and Shelter 501. The secondary system is a Classe Five (soon to be replaced, I hope, by a Pearl and something) and Aleph 5, the front end being a VPI HW-19 Mk III/SAMA with a VPI JMW-10 arm and Benz cartridge.

I own a pair of Reference 3A DeCapo i's, which I bought (used) because so many people seem so fond of them. I don't personally care for them. I find them to be very light on the bottom end, both driven by the 5 and by the 2s. So I'm planning to get rid of those.

My current speakers, in the main system, are Thiel CS 1.6s. These are extremely efficient. Stereophile measured them at 94dB/1W, and I can believe it, as they play louder than the DeCapos for the same input. On the other hand, however, the 1.6s are nearly a flat 4ohm load, and a lot of the single-stage amps seem much to prefer an 8ohm load, from what I can tell. So they might work, but I'm wondering if something else might be better. That something else could happily live in the second system, presently populated with Thiel CS.5s, though I'm seriously thinking about 1.6s for there, too.

Anyway, thoughts appreciated.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2007, 04:25 PM   #2
Vix is offline Vix  Yugoslavia
diyAudio Member
 
Vix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Somewhere on Planet Earth
Default Re: Speakers for Zen

Quote:
Originally posted by rgheck

My current speakers, in the main system, are Thiel CS 1.6s. These are extremely efficient. Stereophile measured them at 94dB/1W, and I can believe it, as they play louder than the DeCapos for the same input. On the other hand, however, the 1.6s are nearly a flat 4ohm load, and a lot of the single-stage amps seem much to prefer an 8ohm load

Build two Zen amps (or four monoblocks) and run them in parallel
(two blocks per channel)

It should work better on 4 ohm load.

Or, build a BIB with Fostex Fe166. It should be a good match.

Vix
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2007, 04:50 PM   #3
diyAudio Member
 
neil_kaye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Francisco
I just replaced my DIY Jordan 92's in a VTL enclosure, which were powered by gainclones ,with a ZU Druid. Everything i had read the druids are absolutley true. I am so thrilled and convinced by these speakers that i am in the process of completing a ZV9 to drive them.
So my suggestion adn hearty recommendation would be Druids.
I know that they are not DIY but they are exceptional value
  Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2007, 10:33 PM   #4
The one and only
 
Nelson Pass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
I think the Druids work exceptionally well with ZV9 (well, actually
an F3). It is apparent that you need to beat them up for a week
or so with a higher power amp to loosen them up. I recommend
a really crappy amp for this so that the ZV9 will sound extra
glorious when you hook it up.

  Reply With Quote
Old 12th January 2007, 10:52 PM   #5
Zen Mod is offline Zen Mod  Serbia
diyAudio Member
 
Zen Mod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain
Quote:
Originally posted by Nelson Pass
I think the Druids work exceptionally well with ZV9 (well, actually
an F3). It is apparent that you need to beat them up for a week
or so with a higher power amp to loosen them up. I recommend
a really crappy amp for this so that the ZV9 will sound extra
glorious when you hook it up.




__________________
my Papa is smarter than your Nelson !
clean thread; Cook Book;PSM LS Cook Book;Baby DiyA ;Mighty ZM's Bloggg;Papatreasure;Papa... by Mighty ZM
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Studio monitor speakers as Hi Fi speakers? MRod Multi-Way 2 27th March 2009 06:07 AM
Built differences between Guitar Speakers and PA Speakers? agadis PA Systems 7 24th September 2007 09:22 AM
How would you compare your DIY speakers to commercial speakers? AJ Bertelson Multi-Way 20 28th May 2004 04:20 PM
Car Speakers in Theatre Speakers NEED HELP FAST!!! Psionic Multi-Way 9 3rd March 2003 12:11 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:59 AM.


vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 1999-2014 diyAudio

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2