New AlephX - problem

yoke · 25th November 2006, 09:45 AM

Hi...
I have put together two channel of Aleph X...
One is working fine, except that heatsinks are little short so that temperature is 65*C, but the another gives me problem...

I just connected it for the firs time...and one side doesn't work?
When I say one side, I mean, when we divide this amp to + and – output side...Q1, Q2 doesn't work...Q10, Q11 does work...( I have 2xQ1,Q2 and 2XQ10,Q11 )
I measure voltage over source resistors on those mosfet and I get 0.5V on Q10, Q11 and 0V on Q1, Q2...

I try to swamp Q5 and Q7 and I get same thing...

What could be wrong?

Netlist · 25th November 2006, 10:15 AM

What's the voltage over R23 and R25?

/Hugo

yoke · 25th November 2006, 10:21 AM

R25 2.9 and R23 4.6 at around +/-12V

Netlist · 25th November 2006, 10:40 AM

R23 is correct. 2.9V over R25 is not enough to turn Q2 on. So, you'll have to find out why that voltage is too low. Correct resistor value? Bad soldering?

/Hugo

yoke · 25th November 2006, 11:21 AM

could it be that Q4 or Q9 ( ztx450 ) are broken ?

Netlist · 25th November 2006, 12:01 PM

Could be, just take them out for the moment, the amp works fine without them.
In any case, you need exactly the same voltages at R23/25 and 2.9V is too low. Measure the voltage across the gate resistors of the output and current source mosfets.
They all should read 0V. If not, the corresponding mosfet is broken.

/Hugo

yoke · 25th November 2006, 12:51 PM

o.k....I replace ztx450...no change...
Change Q7 ( IRF9610 ) on R25 (¨the one that measures less then 0.4V ) ... no change...
I try to resoled resistors around Q5/Q7 ( on PCB )...no change...

Is there possibility to burn something while playing with this...I mean one side work, other don’t and there is above 10V on PCB ?

Netlist, thanks for your time and hlep

yoke · 25th November 2006, 12:55 PM

upppsssss

I just soo that I have solder R8 into the place of R7

Netlist · 25th November 2006, 01:00 PM

Again, what voltage do you read across the gate resistors of Q1 and Q2?

/Hugo

yoke · 25th November 2006, 01:09 PM

everithing is fine now...

thanks Hugo once again

it takes me only 3 and a half hour to figure that I solder resistor at wrong spot

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25th November 2006, 10:15 AM	#2
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003	What's the voltage over R23 and R25? /Hugo

25th November 2006, 10:21 AM	#3
yoke diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Split	R25 2.9 and R23 4.6 at around +/-12V

25th November 2006, 10:40 AM	#4
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003	R23 is correct. 2.9V over R25 is not enough to turn Q2 on. So, you'll have to find out why that voltage is too low. Correct resistor value? Bad soldering? /Hugo

25th November 2006, 11:21 AM	#5
yoke diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Split	could it be that Q4 or Q9 ( ztx450 ) are broken ?

25th November 2006, 12:01 PM	#6
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003	Could be, just take them out for the moment, the amp works fine without them. In any case, you need exactly the same voltages at R23/25 and 2.9V is too low. Measure the voltage across the gate resistors of the output and current source mosfets. They all should read 0V. If not, the corresponding mosfet is broken. /Hugo

25th November 2006, 12:51 PM	#7
yoke diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Split	o.k....I replace ztx450...no change... Change Q7 ( IRF9610 ) on R25 (¨the one that measures less then 0.4V ) ... no change... I try to resoled resistors around Q5/Q7 ( on PCB )...no change... Is there possibility to burn something while playing with this...I mean one side work, other don’t and there is above 10V on PCB ? Netlist, thanks for your time and hlep

25th November 2006, 12:55 PM	#8
yoke diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Split	upppsssss I just soo that I have solder R8 into the place of R7

25th November 2006, 01:00 PM	#9
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003	Again, what voltage do you read across the gate resistors of Q1 and Q2? /Hugo

25th November 2006, 01:09 PM	#10
yoke diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Split	everithing is fine now... thanks Hugo once again it takes me only 3 and a half hour to figure that I solder resistor at wrong spot

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