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RX5 2nd November 2006 03:56 PM

best preamp?
 
Hi all,

Pls be gentle.. this IS my 1st post here :D

could anyone point me to a -nice- preamp possibly with tone controls?

there are so many post/s and frankly, Im not quiet familiar with them...


:rolleyes:


Thanks,
Raff

hifimaker 2nd November 2006 05:27 PM

Tone controls?! Prepare to be flamed!

There are almost NO highend products has tone controls. Tune your system with interconnect cables, sources, and type of speaker. Seriously, once you build a BOSOZ preamp and perhaps an Aleph30 amp with a good CD player or DAC you will understand why tone controls are not necessary. A good authoritive system with accurate sound reproduction is truelu a delight to the ears. Personally I'm not interested in coloring the sound with tone controls.

A great preamp to build, with simply awesome sound, is the BOSOZ. This little preamp will simply blow away many commercial products.

A full detailed construction guide is available at www.passdiy.com.

Click on the Balance Zen Linestage PDF file to get the manual.
http://www.passdiy.com/legacy.htm

Good luck,

-David

RX5 2nd November 2006 10:34 PM

dw8083,


BOSOZ preamp then.. :angel:


thank you so much ;) i will read/download all necessary info...
:smash:



Cheers,
Raff



PS. what is UGS? :confused:

flg 4th November 2006 01:27 AM

Tone controls are the easy way to attempt to get around system problems. A properly designed system will need very little.
Don't take all this so seriously though. Some time ago, the equipment even in the studio "system" was not so good. You no doubt have some of those recordings. The engineer, the studio, the equipment, the artist and the producer, etc, etc, all contibute to the sound. None of them perfect and most of them no where near the quality possible today. But then, it was mixed, or mastered, in a studio, are you listening in a studio atmosphere?
The idea, generally, is to recreate the performance the artist originally recordered. We try to deal with the electronic portion of the performance in the most accurate way possible. There is another forum dealing with the electro/mechanical acoustic portion of the performance. Most of the opinions gathered here are well beyond the industries capability to measure quantatatively. That is to say, they are all dealing with damn good designs and components to the point of no one persons opinion is "right" or "wrong", "better" or "worse".
However, this is the Pass Labs forum :D :D :D Most everyone here will urge you to try any Pass design without any argument. The BOSOZ or the BZLS as it may be known, is a very good starting point. I have one myself.

Let me take a shot at your other question... I believe the UGS is an attempt at duplicating Mr. Pass's current gain module which is still in production. Hence, we don't actually know how close it is to one of the best Pass Labs designs. But, it sure seems like a step closer to one of his best to me... I will soon try something close to the UGS myself too:D :D :D

P.S. What is a Blowtorch :confused: :confused: :confused:

freakyone 7th November 2006 07:51 AM

Hello!

I was reading one thread which said the aleph p1.7 sounded better than the Bosoz

Any comments on this anyone

hifimaker 7th November 2006 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freakyone
Hello!

I was reading one thread which said the aleph p1.7 sounded better than the Bosoz

Any comments on this anyone


The BOSOZ is a darn fine preamp, and the xBosoz is even better for some applications. Build quality and parts used is an important factor.

BTW, I have a complete Kari xBosoz "Kit" with parts and boards for the preamp and the PSU I'd be willing to sell for what I paid for it if you're interested.

-David

wayne325 9th November 2006 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dw8083



The BOSOZ is a darn fine preamp, and the xBosoz is even better for some applications. Build quality and parts used is an important factor.

BTW, I have a complete Kari xBosoz "Kit" with parts and boards for the preamp and the PSU I'd be willing to sell for what I paid for it if you're interested.

-David


Yes the P1.7 has a finer sound than the BOSOZ. I built em both.
But the BOSOZ is an easier projet since there are boards
available. I'd do the BOSOZ if it was my first amp and I was an
amateur. If you're an engineer or technician then you could
easily do the P1.7.
BTW use the output attenuator... its the only way to fly.

Good luck !!!!!

RX5 9th November 2006 03:43 PM

wayne325,


hello... uhhmmmm a link to that P1.7 pls... :)

steenoe 9th November 2006 04:00 PM

Here you go, good luck:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...50#post1050850

Steen:)

RX5 9th November 2006 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steenoe
Here you go, good luck:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...50#post1050850

Steen:)


Thanks a lot!!!! :)

to bad I already have a problem.... IRF610 is locally available but IRF9610 is NOT..... i wonder if IRF9640 -or- IRF9540 would do?? they ARE the only ones available...



:smash:


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