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Old 28th August 2006, 02:02 PM   #1
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Default a goog book for beginner!

Hi everybody!

i'm new on this forum.
I'm searching a good book to start up.
I'm an electronic engineer but i'm totally new in audio design's field.

i've bought the following books:



Title: Valve and Transistor Audio Amplifiers
Author(s): John Hood

Audio Power Amplifier Design Handbook
Edition: 4Rev ed
Author(s): Douglas Self

Valve Amplifiers
Edition: 3Rev ed
Author(s): Morgan Jones




i still have to receive the first one (valve and transistor)...first of all ...and so....... i've started to read the douglas self's book.
It's too advanced for me, because it talks of concept without a lot of explanation (not at all).
Furthermore, the authour is a fan in feedback and class b amp, and i don't (maybe i'm wrong!).

Anyway, i would look for a very book for beginners in audio developing.
I know there is the art of linear electronic, but the new version won't be out for other time .

I hope to receive some good advice from all of you guys.

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Old 28th August 2006, 03:32 PM   #2
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I got the Audiophiles Project Source Book for Christmas last year and it's alright. It might help bridge the gap between your electrical engineering background and the Douglas Self book. It has lots of projects with just basic summaries of concepts, but doesn't get into math or design.

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Old 28th August 2006, 03:56 PM   #3
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thanks.

I can try to get that book, but i think i would need more a book that goes in basic conept on the project of amplifier.
For insatce a book that would consider the feedback and the modeing of the amp.
I need a book that covers the miller compensation and other concept that in the douglas's book are skipped.

From the review of the book that oyu higlighted me seems to be a cookbook, but i can be wrong!


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Old 28th August 2006, 04:26 PM   #4
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anyway....

i'm reading right now the douglas's book and i'm just see words.
it's hard for me to understad the effect of the retroaction by seeing a class b circuit's amplifier and just talking about the effects without any caculation or explanation of what is said.

i cannot judge this book since my limited knwoledge of amp design, but i just can say that it's not really understandable for people like me, with engeineer background, but without experiencce on amplifier design.

i would definitely need a book with a enough math equation wwhere you can see why the highest poe affect the stability...or why the VAS is modeld by integrator and why the cmil affects the stability....an so forth for other concepts.

i hope to get some help from you guys.
i'm sure one i will read other book then this book will be usefull and clear...even if i prefere an author that is not a fan of feedback and calls b amplifier.


looking forward...


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Old 28th August 2006, 04:47 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Stefanoo


. . . but i can be wrong!

More books than already have? It can be wrong!

Here is a non-fiction except minor parts. I was within 50 at the bottom, and a friend of mine was around 5 also at the bottom among at least 400 students of our middle school. So, we could not pass high school exam, and we couldn't join the high school one year. Particularly, we were really hopeless in English grammar among others. Aya . . . we wanted to do inovation of our bad images for the families and determined ourselves to study for the next year exam, particularly focusing on English grammar. I bought several thick books including one very advanced. I read those books day and night, but I couldn't finish all. Meanwhile, my friend bought just one thin basic book . . . o, my . . . that book? . . . I was scorning him. He didn't listen to me and repeatedly read it more than 20 times.

In the next year, my friend passed the exam with very good score of English grammar. Me . . . ? I'd better stop my story here . . .

Many more books? It can be wrong!
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Old 28th August 2006, 07:01 PM   #6
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I've mentioned it elsewhere, but John Linsley Hood's "The Art of
Linear Electronics" is coming back into print through
Old Colony Sound (AudioXpress) and is I think the best beginner's
book.

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Old 28th August 2006, 09:07 PM   #7
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yes, thanks for the suggestion.
But it's not published yet, so as soon as it will come out i wll get it.
But, in the meantime, what can i read as a beginner?
is there any similar book of"the art of linear electronics"?

(right now i'm just starting the 4th chapter of douglas's book hope it will geet more detailed and explained).

hope to receive other good suggestions.


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Old 28th August 2006, 11:18 PM   #8
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I think that the relevent chapters of "The Art of Electronics"
by Horowitz and Hill are the most authoritative, although
somewhat drier than Hood.

Self and Sloan are good if you are intending to build amps
their way. If not, then they are less helpful.

If you think of yourself as a rank amateur, I recommend the
Zen series and its predecessors, including the A40 and the
A75. You can find them at www.passdiy.com.

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self's book.
It's too advanced for me, because it talks of concept without a lot of explanation (not at all).
Furthermore, the authour is a fan in feedback and class b amp, and i don't (maybe i'm wrong!).
self's book is basic, and it is a good book, i have read many books
noone is perfect, for a beginner i recommend zen papers by pass

if i had to choose the best book self's is it, self's talks advanced
but his book is pretty basic all he talks about is kindergarden stuff
some even are funny but a good basics book indeed

john
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Old 29th August 2006, 12:51 AM   #10
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Originally posted by Pass Nelson

I've mentioned it elsewhere, but John Linsley Hood's "The Art of
Linear Electronics" is coming back into print through
Old Colony Sound (AudioXpress) and is I think the best beginner's
book.
Pass the book you mention isnt a book on power amplifier
it covers a range of subjects

umm as a beginner i want something like zen series to start
with, and then use self's book to put zen under the microscope

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