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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
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I looking for a bit more detail on external PSUs for power amps. It was raised in this thread,
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3493&perpage=15&highlig ht=remote%20AND%20power%20AND%20supply&pagenumber= 1 but the thread then drifted off topic. GRollins and Fred Dieckmann both mentioned using extra capacitance in the amp enclosure. Does this extra capacitance need to be a significant percentage of the overall capacitance? My aim is to use 26000uF caps in a C-C-L-C-C on each rail, where L=2-3mH. Could I simply move the last cap to the seperate enclosure? (I have the caps already, and am looking for a UK outlet for the chokes) My other option would be to get an amount of smaller caps - 1000uF or thereabouts - and use those in addition to the existing caps. All help will be gratefully accepted!!! Please!!! Cheers Paul |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
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Probaby half or more should be close by the amp. Reason: you need enough C by the rectifiers to absorb the spike (otherwise EMI probs and ohmic losses), but after that you ideally want to lower the impedance of the supply, which means keep the capacitance close to the circuit.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
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What spike?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
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The spikes he refers to ride on the voltage
rail and are due to the rectification of the AC mains. A nice article about power supplies can be found here: http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/ssps1_e.html It may go a long way toward answering your questions. Best, Erik |
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The one and only
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Ideally we keep the transformers and first bank of
caps a few feet away, and then have another bank of caps locally at the circuit. (This for Monos only...) This also provides a nice opportunity to insert and R or L to make a pi filter and take out some ripple. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
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eLarson,
Thanks for that link, just downloaded and printed. I'll read that asap. Nelson, Do I take it that the chokes or resistors are in the transformer box or the amp box? Everybody, Thanks for your input. Cheers Paul ------------------- Every step is one step closer to the prize.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
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If the goal is to get the power feed to the
amplifier box as clean as possible, I reckon I'd put the bulk of the caps (with the choke between the banks to make a pi filter) in the PS box. In the amplifier box I suppose I would put a good sized cap (2200 or so) near the front end circuitry, then one near each output device for some "localized power delivery." (Honestly I'm not sure how much that would really help, I've never tried it with anything other than a lineamp. YMMV) Another thing to keep in mind is how to deliver the power from the PS box to the amp box. Allied with that concern is how to ground everything. Keep the grounds for the lower current front end circuits separate from those for the output stage. I'm thinking the main ground should be back at the PS box and the others should connect to that one way or another. You may end up with an umbilical that looks almost like an undersea cable by the time everything is said and done! ![]() Good luck with it, Erik |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
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YMMV?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: UK
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YMMV
Your Milage May Vary James |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
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Many thanks!!
Paul |
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