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Old 19th November 2002, 09:51 AM   #1
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Default Aleph-X Economy Grade.

I am keen to build a low cost, low power version of the Aleph-X for my PC workstation, where my nearfield levels are typically quite low.
Currently I am using an old all tube reciever rated at 10W + 10W or so, and usually I am using less than 1 watt or so.
In the interests of economy, I am keen to utilise PC switchmode supplies that I have hanging around, and as these are rated at 20 Amperes and more at 5V, I figure these would be a good soloution if......so....
Can the Aleph-X output stage be operated at 5V supply, what current is required at 5V, and what power output is to be expected into 4 or 8 ohms ?.

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Old 19th November 2002, 11:16 AM   #2
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Default How low can we go.

The answer is yes and no.

It is not possible to run a X from a five volt supply directly. You would need a switching power supply to boost the five volt level to something more reasonable.The same method as used in most higher powered car audio amps. Scrapping this idea would be the best choice.

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Old 19th November 2002, 11:30 AM   #3
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So what is the output stage (output transistors) minimum voltage requirement then ?

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PC power supplies have 12V rails too. That would be just right.
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Old 19th November 2002, 03:39 PM   #5
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You do need to provide a 1A minimum load on the 5V though for it to operate properly. A 5ohm 10W resistor would work well. I ran a SOZ on a few of these in series for a while. The ground is connected to earth ground, but it only requires cutting a trace to fix. These can usually do 8A on the 12V output. Mine would start up with no problems with 32000uf on the outputs. I replaced them with transformers and rectifiers.

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Old 19th November 2002, 11:35 PM   #6
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More what I meant is can the outputs be powered by 5V, and the input transistors and CCS by 12V ?.
I am seeking to build a baby version using el-cheapo heatsinks and output transistors in a compact box, all out of my junkbox excepting the output transistors.
If the whole amp is powered from 12V, what output power is available ?.

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Old 20th November 2002, 12:36 AM   #7
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If you reorganise the front end current source to work at a lower voltage, you could probably get this working on about +/- 7V which should give a little over 6W output into 8ohms.
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Default Power Losses......

Thanks, that is the info I am looking for.
Because I will only be using a couple of watts, I can live with the inefficiency of a low power version.

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Old 20th November 2002, 01:12 AM   #9
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a computer power supply actually generates 5, 12, AND 7 volts.

if you combine a 5v and 12v lead, you can get 7v. trust me, i had a switch in my old computer that i could switch my fan's voltages from 5, 7, or 12, depending on how quiet i wanted it.
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Old 20th November 2002, 01:12 AM   #10
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It would be cool to use those thousands of PC power supplies piling up! Can you run the output of one switching supply into another to jack up the voltage? The 12 volt out puts are usually pretty low amps the 5 v are the high output,

You can use CPU cooler heatsinks with fan to cool the output transistors. After all, you have the computer with fans right there anyway.

And if you use the a speaker design with a hard drive voice coil you have used another computer part:

http://ohmslaw.com/speaker.htm

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...4478#post84478


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