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Old 10th February 2006, 03:52 PM   #11
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I agree with jh6you.

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Old 10th February 2006, 04:27 PM   #12
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I do not know what is the "one."
Well, I think its the J-fet input version of the ZenV4 that NP kindly made for our fellow diy'er Blues And yes I think it was in NP's folder all along JH and GL, you two guys are skilled enough to breadboard loads of stuff, we have seen that allright Not all of us are though, and a nice pcb comes in handy, sometimes The pcb's could ofcourse be misused for profit purposes now and then. But often enough they dont! Not by me, at least

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Old 10th February 2006, 04:44 PM   #13
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made for our fellow diy'er Blues
I changed the jfet pdf long ago to: FORME
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Old 10th February 2006, 05:01 PM   #14
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I changed the jfet pdf long ago to: FORME
Jacco, thats probably a good idea We could all do that Did you try and build it?
I am a bit curious if the J-fet input would give a major improvement over the ZVP device? The stock, ZenV4 is not excactly lacking soundwise as it is.

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Old 10th February 2006, 05:06 PM   #15
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Hi Steen,

Yes I agree with you too. I guess my point is that DIYers selling things and promoting kits and group buys to other DIYers should be doing it in one of the marketplace areas and not in the main forums such as PassLabs. It seems like this activity has been leaking into the PassLabs forum at an increasing rate over the past few months. I think JH is feeling like I am that the number of threads on this topic in the PassLabs forum has risen from the nuisance level to annoying.

As an example of doing it right, see how Grey Rollins moved his JFET group buy very quickly over into the group buy section. He no longer even talks about that topic in the main forum. I wish other promoters of PCB's and kits would follow his example.

I apologize if I am offending anyone. I don't intend to start a dialog on this topic. Enough said.

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Old 10th February 2006, 05:24 PM   #16
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This is all getting a little vague. Perhaps I am to blame.
When I said that I thought 'that one has been there all along' I was referring to the FORBLUES schematic, which I seem to recall having seen in the NP subdirectory ever since Nelson presented it here at DIY.
As far as people making circuit boards goes, I have mixed feelings about it. I can see both sides of the matter. A great deal can be said about this, but in the end I feel that it's best decided on a case-by-case basis.
To the extent that Nelson's patents or ideas are involved, it's his decision that counts. Not yours, mine, or anyone else's. I have always tried to acknowledge in my threads (e.g. Mini-A, Aleph-X, etc.) when I have used Nelson's ideas. John Curl, for instance, has a more secretive approach to these things--that's his right, and I support his decision. Nelson has been brave, generous, or perhaps foolish enough to share his ideas. I would be the first to admit that I have benefitted from his willingness to share his schematics. To the extent that the information is available, then I say thanks and try to learn from it. If he finds it necessary to close the door, then I will understand and support that decision.
Given that my stories are being stolen in Russia this very moment without permission or payment, I can understand that there are people who don't play fair. If there truly was justice in the world, a lightning bolt would smite the bad guys, but that never seems to happen. You just have to do the best you can under adverse circumstances.

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Old 10th February 2006, 06:10 PM   #17
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I apologize if I am offending anyone.
I dont think you are offending anyone, whomsoever What you say is all sound and fair, indeed
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Perhaps I am to blame.
Again, I dont think so People not knowing what you were reffering to, didnt kow about it, simple enough
Regarding the pcb's, I still think its fair to do the development in the appropiate forum. Thats where you can get the right input to get the work done properly! I dont applaud, if the purpose is to make money ofcourse. If the result is offered to the members here at DIYaudio at next to no profit, I think it is a fair case. We all benefit from that I felt this discussion comming for a while now! My suggestion is to put a maximum on every order! Well to make an excample, I just ordered 3 of PD's A-30 stereo boards! Two of them are handed over to 2 other Danish diy'ers that were not able to order for them selves, the last one I kept for myself Ofcourse if one person orders 50 sets, you might lift an eyebrow, so to speak
In the case of NP's work, he ofcourse has the final word. As far as I know, every groupbuy done in the Passlabs forum, had his permission till now. Its on purpose I said every GB done so far. Whatever, as long as PassDIY is up and running, I will have my hands full

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I changed the jfet pdf long ago to: FORME

Of course, Jacco...you're a DIYer!
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Whatever, as long as PassDIY is up and running, I will have my hands full
The way PassDIY is set up now, there are no sales, and therefore
no maintenance. We just post articles and people's projects
and life is easy.

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Old 10th February 2006, 09:50 PM   #20
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The way PassDIY is set up now, there are no sales, and therefore
no maintenance. We just post articles and people's projects
and life is easy.


I think that Steen meant on Pass forum on Diyaudio;

on topic : one hell of example,even if not in Pass corner here-but in Solid State corner is last action of Mark Gulbrandsen ; he managed another group buy of few dozens KSA50 pcbs,with all cash intended for Diyaudio donation.........

it's hard to see sometimes (catch every post in every thread),but I think that all group buys in Pass corner are non-profit,at least in last few months ;

last questionable situation was with KKs activities;
If I'm not wrong,he still make pcbs for several Pass's products.
mebbe is worth to see are schematics still on his site?


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here:

http://www.kk-pcb.com/

hehe

even pcbs and schmtc for Mini A


I don't wanna be spy or snitch in any way,but -that's real example of making money with DIY stuff
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