Mmmm...
Very often I read about some people complaining that the Aleph's are bass shy, wanting more punch or asking about the bass quality....
In my experience the Aleph's are not that bass shy or lacking quality even when they are two stages.
About a year more or less I did finish an Aleph 'mini' [ around 10 watts ] and after checking that the dc output was in no way harmful to a speaker I hooked it to a pair of Sony mid-fi baffles [ they were part of a 100W home theater combo -multi stage, push-pull class AB-, reflex speakers ] and to my surprise the bass had more quality to my ears and it had more definition [ -quality-, I was able to discern diff. bass tones and range versus a 'thud' that seems to promote the sense of 'punch' ] and coherence but since I was feeding the Aleph 'mini' with a discman I was able to turn on the 'supperbass' on it and the resulting bass was certainly louder, overhelming, punchier and very strong despite its 10 watts.
After that experience a friend brought a pair of baffles made by himself ( sealed ) that had a pair of local bass speakers ( Steren, around 8 inch ) with a very heavy magnet and in my opinion very low SPL to test them with the Aleph 'mini'. The results were less fortunate in terms of 'thud' and loudness [ran out of gas, 10W] even when the bass quality remained the same...
After that we routed those speakers ( my friend's ) to the Sony amp and we could observe the same behavior, less SPL at the same volume setting than the original Sony baffles so we had to really turn up more volume marks in order to have an equivalent bass loudness. Of course, the Sony amp. was able to really drive up the boxes ( 100W ).
So, in my humble opinion, the speaker selection really matters when matting them to an amplifier or viceversa... but if you like some sort of guaranty, well, try having at hand an amplifier able to deliver maybe more or around 100W.
Drakonis.
Very often I read about some people complaining that the Aleph's are bass shy, wanting more punch or asking about the bass quality....
In my experience the Aleph's are not that bass shy or lacking quality even when they are two stages.
About a year more or less I did finish an Aleph 'mini' [ around 10 watts ] and after checking that the dc output was in no way harmful to a speaker I hooked it to a pair of Sony mid-fi baffles [ they were part of a 100W home theater combo -multi stage, push-pull class AB-, reflex speakers ] and to my surprise the bass had more quality to my ears and it had more definition [ -quality-, I was able to discern diff. bass tones and range versus a 'thud' that seems to promote the sense of 'punch' ] and coherence but since I was feeding the Aleph 'mini' with a discman I was able to turn on the 'supperbass' on it and the resulting bass was certainly louder, overhelming, punchier and very strong despite its 10 watts.
After that experience a friend brought a pair of baffles made by himself ( sealed ) that had a pair of local bass speakers ( Steren, around 8 inch ) with a very heavy magnet and in my opinion very low SPL to test them with the Aleph 'mini'. The results were less fortunate in terms of 'thud' and loudness [ran out of gas, 10W] even when the bass quality remained the same...
After that we routed those speakers ( my friend's ) to the Sony amp and we could observe the same behavior, less SPL at the same volume setting than the original Sony baffles so we had to really turn up more volume marks in order to have an equivalent bass loudness. Of course, the Sony amp. was able to really drive up the boxes ( 100W ).
So, in my humble opinion, the speaker selection really matters when matting them to an amplifier or viceversa... but if you like some sort of guaranty, well, try having at hand an amplifier able to deliver maybe more or around 100W.
Drakonis.
MikeW said:Is there a way to get more punch in the bass of an Aleph amp? Are you better off with three stage or push pull design?
Bridge them, maybe
....sorry, I couldn't resist
Seriously, I know what you mean. The bass is fine but it seems to be a bit mellow or laid back. It's definitely not a subwoofer amp! The highs are to die for though, and any improvement in bass that may somehow affect those highs would be a shame in my opinion. Makes it a perfect bi-amp scenario if you ask me.
I have turned the bias up on my A-30 to 4 amps. Don't worry I have plenty of heatsinking. The A-40 and Krell clone still have more punch in the bass. They are at the same volume using the same pre-amp and speakers (two way).
I do see better response with the other full range speakers Ihave made.
I do see better response with the other full range speakers Ihave made.
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