Little brother of the XA-200 available? (XA-150)

[Franklin]

Ken,

I have related my comments to the situation in the Dutch high-end business and the high-end business in general. I may say that I, more than you realize, do understand why business decisions are made.
With respect to my personal situation, wether relevant or not in this forum, I wanted to illustrate that this is the way business is done by many, be they manufacturers or dealers. People don't count anymore these days.
I also realise that very few share my point of view, but that's ok.

To Nelson

Sadly this is often, as you mention, the way it goes in business. That's way it's no longer my cup of thea.

Franklin

[Fred Dieckmann]

"It is my opinion that it is in poor taste to choose this venue as the place to make such statements and then relate them to your disappointment about a business deal that fell through."

Ditto! Move on please.

Fred

[BrianGT]

Originally posted by Fred Dieckmann
Ditto! Move on please.

Nelson,

When will the XA-200 arrive in stores? I want to go listen to one!

--
Brian

[Ken L]

Originally posted by pinkmouse


" Just a thought, if I built 15 ways of class A for my home theatre system, I would never need to pay for central heating ever again!"

I've kinda wondered about that situation myself -

I'm pretty much a tube sort of guy - but started following the Pass Labs forum - partly because I was thinking of tri-amping and wanted to avoid the heat put out by the tubes - Duhhhh - well - looks to me like ss put outs about the same amount of heat but does it through an aluiminum sink instead of a glass bottle -

Here in SC our summers can be brutal, I guess our cooling season is longer than our heating season - So there is no easy out - However, I'm having the forced air heating/cooling for the HT put on a seperate thermostat and zone -

I guess if I moved up north I could do like Pinkmouse is thinking and heat with SS

Ken

[Nelson Pass]

I have the same sort of heat problem, running 10 channels
of Class A to drive my quint amped system.

Marlin P Jones' web site is currently offering nice 12V
computer type fans for $3, and I bought 100.

I'm building a rack which will use these to remove heat
to the outside in the summer and the inside in winter.

This way I hope to at least reduce my cooling bill next summer.

[pinkmouse]

Sounds cool Nelson, got any pics?

[dice45]

Nelson,

Originally posted by Nelson Pass I have the same sort of heat problem, running 10 channels
of Class A to drive my quint amped system.
Marlin P Jones' web site is currently offering nice 12V
computer type fans for $3, and I bought 100.
I'm building a rack which will use these to remove heat
to the outside in the summer and the inside in winter.
This way I hope to at least reduce my cooling bill next summer.

why dont you buy an old rotten car's not so rotten heatsink ... oops ... water cooling unit and those nice lil' floudcoolers available now and build a remote water cooling circuit for your 10 channels? sorry, could not resist ..but that's exactly what i plan to do with my computer, not only because of the heat, also to get the noise out. With all security means, of course, including a flow sensor checking if the pump is working or stuck.

[dice45]

Franklin,

Originally posted by Franklin
With regard to the consumer prices of Pass amps I have to say that as a former (prospective Pass) distributor this is exactly the development that kills the high-end business in general....etc

risking i am pouring oil into a already dying down, i must say that i do not appreciate washing dirty laundry in public. No matter if justified. Methinks you got a set of lumps for that already and in a way more gentle way than you earn.

I just want to add that we live in a not-so-pleasant world and that it is the standard case for manufacturers, dsitrubutors, dealers and customers to pull each other over the table, to cheat and dicker down whereever possible.
Now there some manufacturers trying to break that vicious circle. By being honest.
As Pass Labs. Company policy is honesty, honesty and mutual long-term trust is program. (Nelson, please correct my wording if you feel that misexpressed)

We have a saying over here, a rhyme:
"Wenn jeder Treue läßt vermissen
bist Du als Treuer aufgeschmissen"
translates freely : If everybody cheats on honesty, your honesty is cheated too.

I fervently disagree. In a world of cheaters there are plenty of folks feeling cheated.
If now an honest company manages to obtain those as customers, honesty has become a unique selling point.

Just for the record, i am a tube person and designing my own amps, So i am unlikely to ever buy or build a Pass amp.
But i am likely to adopt Pass Labs policy, should i make it to the own business. I will follow Nelson's example. I let my business relations be based on mutual long-term trust and if a customer needs info concerning my product, he gets it. May the sales and marketing staff frown on me.
I tell you what the sales and marketing staff does frown at massively: to have bikinis to sell to an Eskimo/Inuit grandma.
I tell you what the sales and marketing staff is happy with: to have a competitive product to be proud of and easy to sell.

Obviously the Euro 42000 amp is such and sells, other wise Nelson would not have time to share it with us.