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Old 23rd January 2006, 01:00 AM   #11
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I know Nelson Pass
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hope he gets well soon, i know he must be upset over this violation of his IP
This time might be a guy, who loves diy audio,
that wants schematics and build one of these amps.

But how he plan to use all those schematics, we do not know.
What is odd, he does not tell, if he wants to build an amplifier.
Sure is, he will not build all these variations of Pass amps.

Best is if he sent an email to www.passlabs.com or www.passdiy.com
told what his plan is and asked for advice.

If Nelson Pass would be seriously upset every time somebody used his stuff
in a way that is not proper, permitted or legal,
he would never ever have a single good day in the rest of his life.
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Old 23rd January 2006, 02:33 AM   #12
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The way John Curl is treated here is shameful.
Grey,

I couldn't agree more with that statement! We are all very lucky to have people like John, Nelson, and other long time legendary engineers around here to ask our stupid questuions of. What other forum has these people..... The answer is NONE! For me its an honor just to be around these people and to be able to have contact with them. I think we all hope that both John and Nelson also realize that there are going to be a few low-lifes that they will have to tolerate from time to time. Hopefully our great moderators will catch some of these people in the act and eliminate their membership before we loose these important people.

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P.S. This is taken from the Parasond web site for those that don't know who John Curl is......

"Knowledgeable audiophiles and audio designers alike consider John Curl, Parasound's analog design consultant since 1989, to be no less than a legend. The audio components he's designed over the years have, without exception, become cherished collectors items.

In 1974, his design for the ground-breaking Mark Levinson JC-2 preamplifier was responsible for the birth of high end audio. He went on to design the Vendetta Research phono preamplifiers. His $20,000 "Blowtorch" stereo preamplifier is considered one of the very finest analog components of all time."

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Old 23rd January 2006, 03:05 AM   #13
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There seems to be a presumption that Babylon_audio is up to no good. I don't claim to know one way or another. He has made a total of three posts so far, all of which request information. This, in itself, is not enough to condemn someone. After all, I've been known to ask a question or two from time to time and so have most others here.
I confess that I am puzzled by mastertech's wish that Nelson 'get[s] well.' Perhaps I missed something. Is Nelson under the weather, or is this just another out of the blue comment?

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Old 23rd January 2006, 03:13 AM   #14
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I have done diy with the following Pass¡¯s enjoyable projects:

Zen, Zen V2, X- ZenV2, F1, BOZ, BOSOZ, J-Low.

Not any Aleph. Nevertheless, I have loved the Aleph service manuals as very valuable references for me to learn. Now, all have gone from the site. Pity. Meanwhile, I have got impression that many of us have abused the service manuals to make small or big money. Part of them through diyAudio . . .

I have always liked Nelson¡¯s short comments of full meaning. Sometimes, his short comments have made me confused, have to think, and open books. Nevertheless, I like to talk with this kind of man. Not with another type of men who always know all and explain long details to a young year old children.

I hope he will stay in Passlabs forum as usual . . .
And, hope we will try to open his mouth more frequently . . .

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Old 23rd January 2006, 06:31 PM   #15
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Well, it's a classic case of "tragedy of the commons". Pass Labs
is having difficulty with its IP rights on a couple of fronts, and
the men in suits are unanimous that posting the details of the
commercial product on the site invites this.

It's unfortunate, but there it is. In the meantime, the DIY site
and First Watt remain unaffected by this policy.
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Old 23rd January 2006, 06:57 PM   #16
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It's very unfortunate. It's good to know though that the Force is still with us.
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Old 23rd January 2006, 09:47 PM   #17
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Hi,
this maybe a modern way of "circuit collection".

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Old 23rd January 2006, 10:26 PM   #18
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I have always liked Nelson¡¯s short comments of full meaning. Sometimes, his short comments have made me confused, have to think, and open books. Nevertheless, I like to talk with this kind of man. Not with another type of men who always know all and explain long details to a young year old children.

I hope he will stay in Passlabs forum as usual . . .
And, hope we will try to open his mouth more frequently . . .

Regards
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I have impression that Nelson likes children soooo much....
he'll never abandon this forum,because of that.........
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Old 24th January 2006, 12:26 AM   #19
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Well, it's a classic case of "tragedy of the commons". Pass Labs
is having difficulty with its IP rights on a couple of fronts, and
the men in suits are unanimous that posting the details of the
commercial product on the site invites this.

It's unfortunate, but there it is. In the meantime, the DIY site
and First Watt remain unaffected by this policy.

Like I said in another post... It's too bad a couple of knuckle heads ruin it for the rest of us hobbyists!

I did notice that the DIYZone folks in Taiwan pulled their Aleph 1.2 clone off their website. Amazing how well they ripped the current X-amp chassis right down to the meter on front with Aleph 1.2 internals. I'm glad to see them, probably forced, to remove it.

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Mr. Pass,

Is those people that causing you this decission is active members here? Or they are spying as a "never write anything, but downloads everything" member?
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