second Pass Aleph 0 version, of fake ?

steve_pinkcity · 7th October 2005, 11:17 AM

Hello everybody,

Surfing the web, I have been very surprised to discover that there exist two different Pass Aleph 0 versions......

The first one, that seems me to be the real one :
- has his screws on the exterior of the panel
- has no switch button for RCA/XLR mode

The second one, that I think it to be a fake :
- has its screws on the interior of the panel
- has a switch button for RCA/XLR mode

I think the second one is a fake, because nothing, in the docs you can find in the Pass Lab site, specifies the existence of such a second version......

What is your opinion about that ?
Does someone know the existence of such a second version ?

I am very perplexed about that......

(photos are sent in following posts)

steve_pinkcity · 7th October 2005, 01:21 PM

the photo of the rear of "real" Aleph

steve_pinkcity · 7th October 2005, 01:21 PM

the photo of the front of "fake" aleph

steve_pinkcity · 7th October 2005, 01:21 PM

and finally the photo of the front "real" aleph

Nelson Pass · 7th October 2005, 06:27 PM

They are both authentic. Later Alephs dropped the switch in
favor of an XLR jumper on pins 1-3.

I notice that the output connectors have been replaced on
both sets.

steve_pinkcity · 7th October 2005, 07:32 PM

Thanks a lot for your kind response Mr Pass.

At first, I really didn't expect a response for the amplifiers from their own creator..... so it has been a good surprise, and a pleasure to read it......... :-)

At second (since I get the opportunity), I would just thank your very much for your amplifiers : they are the bests I have ever heard !!!
And since I got one of them.......my life is better.

Thanxs !!!

jh6you · 8th October 2005, 03:11 PM

Where did you get the "fake"?
Was it cheap as much as a fake?

Regards
jH

steve_pinkcity · 9th October 2005, 03:52 AM

The "fake" is not mine, and is actually currently on ebay.

At the moment, it is not really expensive, since it is about around 2000$.

The problem is that many things look strange :
- as Nelson remarks : output connectors have been changed : the seller tells me that the original ones where not as good as Eichman's connectors, so he changes them. Very strange, I don't knowPass original connectors to be bad.

- the original paper certificate, with Nelson signature, has disappear
(how can you loose a certificate of an amplifier that costed around 15000$ here in Europe ?)

- the "filter self" have been changed, by the local Pass responsible, according to the selle

I probaly won't bid for that thing, because I think too many things are strange, and i'm scared that many internal things might not correspond to the original one.

So if you want to buy a cheap "fake" Aleph 0.......please do unit

PS: it's a 220/240V

jh6you · 11th October 2005, 02:30 PM

2000 is high.
I thought that I could buy and use the chassis for my F1 if they are real fakes.

jH

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7th October 2005, 06:27 PM	#5
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	They are both authentic. Later Alephs dropped the switch in favor of an XLR jumper on pins 1-3. I notice that the output connectors have been replaced on both sets.

7th October 2005, 07:32 PM	#6
steve_pinkcity diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	Thanks a lot for your kind response Mr Pass. At first, I really didn't expect a response for the amplifiers from their own creator..... so it has been a good surprise, and a pleasure to read it......... :-) At second (since I get the opportunity), I would just thank your very much for your amplifiers : they are the bests I have ever heard !!! And since I got one of them.......my life is better. Thanxs !!!

8th October 2005, 03:11 PM	#7
jh6you Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Near to the Pacific Ocean	Where did you get the "fake"? Was it cheap as much as a fake? Regards jH

9th October 2005, 03:52 AM	#8
steve_pinkcity diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	The "fake" is not mine, and is actually currently on ebay. At the moment, it is not really expensive, since it is about around 2000$. The problem is that many things look strange : - as Nelson remarks : output connectors have been changed : the seller tells me that the original ones where not as good as Eichman's connectors, so he changes them. Very strange, I don't knowPass original connectors to be bad. - the original paper certificate, with Nelson signature, has disappear (how can you loose a certificate of an amplifier that costed around 15000$ here in Europe ?) - the "filter self" have been changed, by the local Pass responsible, according to the selle I probaly won't bid for that thing, because I think too many things are strange, and i'm scared that many internal things might not correspond to the original one. So if you want to buy a cheap "fake" Aleph 0.......please do unit PS: it's a 220/240V

11th October 2005, 02:30 PM	#9
jh6you Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Near to the Pacific Ocean	2000 is high. I thought that I could buy and use the chassis for my F1 if they are real fakes. jH

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